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Texas/Kansas Write Up and Play

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Posted Friday, November 14, 2008 09:45 AM   20 comments
Well let me state that I am joining the public on this one and laying almost two touchdown chalk on the road, so normally this play would scare the shit out of me and would probably be a no-play, but in this case I see so many mismatches I can't resist.
 
Play:
 
Texas -13.5 over Kansas (2 Units)
 
- The line seems to be about right as Kansas opened as 17  underdogs at Oklahoma, and the Sooners and Horns are pretty much evenly matched across the board.  I will state I was on Kansas in that game and got extremely lucky on the backdoor as it looks like Reesing himself had two units on the Jayhawks and engineered a touchdown to Briscoe with less than 30 seconds left.  A funny thing I noticed is Stoops looked pissed about it despite the fact he was getting a two touchdown victory against a ranked conference opponent.  Goes to show that coaches and boosters probably lay action too.
 
ANYway,
 
I see this as a good spot for Texas, and while Kansas has plenty of motivation still being in contention for the Big 12 North, the talent disparity here is big enough for me to lay the road chalk.
 
Key Stat:
 
- First of all, Kansas is losing by an average score of 47-30 against any opponent that actually resembles a Division 1 College Football Team (Texas Tech, Nebraska, South Florida, and Oklahoma.)  This doesnt take into account the 33 points they gave up to Iowa State where they needed a furious comeback to win straight up versus probably the worst team in the Big 12 and one of the worst in the country.  Their wins consist of a laundry list of doormats that is far less than impressive.
 
- Texas on the other hand is winning games by an average of 24 points including a 25 point rout of MIssouri which wasnt even that close.  And on a neutral field I have condifendence that Missouri would house Kansas by a minimum of 10 points.
 
Common Oponent at the same site:
 
- Some will say it doesnt pay to base opinions on common opponents, but one of the games I saw this year gives me more than enough confidence to make this play.  Anyone who witnessed how Texas Tech completly tore this Kansas team apart in Lawerence by a score of 63-21 (with a meaningless KU touchdown at the end) witnessed a porous defense that got shredded at will by well oiled spread offense.  Texas isn't as exotic or quite as advanced as Leech's schemes but the talent level is equal if not greater and both teams take advantage of creating space and allowing their elite quarterbacks to pick apart hapless defenses.  Tech scored absolutely at will in that game and I almost felt embarrased for Kansas although I have no allegieance to them and had two units on Tech.
 
Motivational Factor:
 
Both teams have motivation and there is no let down or potential tank scenario here.  KU is still in contention for the Big 12 North, and Texas is 3rd in the BCS and is very much still alive, especially if Oklahoma takes down Tech next week which is very possible and some will say likely.  Add in that Alabama is no shoe-in to win the SEC championship and old Mack has everything to play for and absolutely every reason to run this one up.  He is going to need style points as other famous run it up intentional spread coverers Urban and Carroll are going to be pulling out all the stops this weekend as well. Which leads to my next point:
 
Backdoor threat:
 
- KU does have a solid offense and Reesing is fully capable of engineering a backdoor, but in this case I don't think it will matter.  I think Texas will be up by at least 3 Touchdowns late due to the fact they should be able to score at will versus the less than stellar KU Defense and have a good enough defense to stop Reesing at least 4-5 times. Add in the fact that Mack will not step on the breaks and I could see Texas themselves getting a backdoor if KU somehow manages to cut the deficit to 7. 
 
There is no look-ahead factor as the Longhorns have A & M on deck and they don't even play them for another 11 days with a bye next Saturday. 
 
Bottom line, KU is a solid program at this point but they are not in Texas' league and if they can't handle Nebraska they are certainly not going to stop Colt and Company.  If this was an early season matchup I would probably stay away but the BCS and conference championship scenario combined with no real lookahead threat for the Horns makes this a juicy spot for them IMO.
 
Best of luck this weekend guys.
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bense197969 says:
11/14/08 10:02AM
Nice write-up,  I just need Kansas to lose SU to Texas or Mizzou to win my Jayhawks UNDER 7.5 wins for the season.  I'll be rooting ya' on.
BigHans says:
11/14/08 10:07AM
Bense,

 

Great future bet.  What kind of juice did you have on it?

cannesKID says:
11/14/08 10:38AM
REALLY REALLY like the play bro

BOL
BigHans says:
11/14/08 11:00AM
As long as I'm laying road chalk I might as well add on another square bet.

 

Play

 

USC -23 Over Stanford (2 Units)

 

Short and Sweet.  Stanford has a few quality wins with victories over Arizona and Oregon State (who obvisouly beat USC).  They also played tough on the road at Oregon last week and complety smoked Washington State (which is kind of like bragging that you can beat the shit out of your 10 year old nephew).

 

I follow the Trojans from having spent a couple years in LA and while I am not an avid supporter I can tell you I usually fade them on big spreads.  They are far from a covering machine as evidenced by their 5-4 ATS record.  They are also a highly penalized team and their offense goes in spurts.  If they were playing any other team I would stay away but I believe Pete is going to have his boys in a lather and they are going to exact revenge, big time, on the Cardinal.

 

From a capping angle, it would make sense to take Stanford here.  I simply don't care.  If USC doesnt get in their own way they should be able to house Stanford by at least 35 points.  Aside from the fact that Stanford's strength is running the ball and they are going to run into an absolute brick wall of a defense, the revenge angle is too high.  Last year's upset is widely considered one of the greatest in college football history (I actually dont hold this opinion as I always though Booty was an average QB at best, but in USC's mind its enough). 

 

Stanford's O Line is no match for Maeuluga, Cushing and company.  Taylor Mays will be playing the run and will be flying to the ball and I fully. expect him to decleat a few ball-carriers.

 

I think USC gives up 10 points, maximum.  With the spread where it is if they put up 35 they cover.  Standford gave up 41 to Arizona State and 28 to Washington, so this is far from unreasonable. 

 

I could go on all day about the revenge angle but the bottom line is the Trojans roll here. 

 

USC 49-10

 

GL. 

 

 

LBCWeasie says:
11/14/08 11:41AM
HMMMM, was on the other side of both but this was a good write-up session and figure I might be on the losing side of both my bets or a split....I believe the strongest play of the 2 is Texas, since the USC line is quite a bit higher and we have seen some crazy shit in college this season and USC has  me a couple of times already....I DID however hit the oregon st ML which made my season, was just a lucky hunch but a win nonetheless......which would you say is a more solid play of these two, if you had to throw a few more ducats on one of the games??

 

BOL this weekend, if you have some time, please check out my first thread ever on here and gimme your insight to my picks, trying to narrow my ENORMOUS card down to 6-8 solid plays, your opinion is always welcome and appreciated

BigHans says:
11/14/08 11:47AM
LBC, USC is a moose machine no doubt.  Its road chalk in a night game, which normally I would never play.  I'm just betting that SC will have its best performance of the year, which if they do they will absolutely demolish Stanford.  I play the motivational factors much more in college in the NFL, and this is an ultimate revenge spot.

 

I think the Texas play is probably stronger cause its a lower spread and KU has absolutely no defese while Texas is a machine on offense.  I'm taking big chances here with this much road chalk, but I expect solid showings from Texas and SC, who are both playing far inferior opponents.  Hope to kick the moose in the teeth this week.

 

BTW nice win on the Oregon State moneyline, I had them with the points but didnt have the balls to take it ML. 

BigHans says:
11/14/08 11:56AM
Check,

 

Not a big totals player.  At gunpoint I'd probably complete the square bet and take the over, as Texas is capable of putting up 50+ on this defense.  However, if its dropping its probably not due to public or square bets, so tread lightly.

 

GL

Mazdaspeed says:
11/14/08 12:16PM
I've posted this several times already and only had a few people argue it and I have posted refuting evidence but people keep mentioning texas and style points:

TEXAS WILL NOT RUN UP GAMES.  TEXAS DOES NOT DO "STYLE POINTS" LATE.

Texas can and will score early, However in my 20+ of watching Texas games being old enough to understand the game, Texas has run up a game less than 3 times.  3 times in 20 years.

I agree with your play despite the fact I do not bet Texas games, but using "style points" as a reason to bet Texas is a false fact.

If anyone can provide evidence of Texas running up a game, I'd be happy to refute it.  I have game tape going back to 1996 for all but 5 Texas games.  That stretch holds 2 games I consider MIGHT be called running it up.

Texas defense is FANTASTIC at making critical stops despite poor overall numbers so backdoor covers aren't a HUGE issue, but if Texas goes up they WILL shut down which can become critical on big chalk.  I don't think thats the case with a 13 point line however.
alwayson22 says:
11/14/08 01:20PM
McLovin' the plays, Hans!  After watching what Oklahoma, Texas Tech, and Nebrsaka did to that Jayhawk D, I'm all over the Longhorns
BigHans says:
11/14/08 01:23PM
Mazda,

Won't disrespect your opinion cause you are obviously a dedicated Horns fan and clearly pay attention to their games.

I wasn't insinuating that Brown is like Urban Meyer or Spurrier in his Florida days.  Texas does blow alot of people out and although they are probably not running double reverse WR passes when up 28 points like the old ball coach would, they have won several games by 35 plus, most likely cause they were simply the superior team, which they clearly are in this case.

My point regarding the style points is I dont think Brown will stop attacking in this game, which counters the main threat to my bet being the backdoor cover.  If Texas is up 21 in the 4th I don't think they will run nothing but Sprint Draws to Ogbonnaya but I guess thats a possibility.

We may have different definitions of style points but as you know this is a huge game for UT and they do need a strong showing as they only lead Florida in the BCS .8798 to .8640, and I fully expect Urban to be running it up in the sense that you may have been thinking.

In any event, the primary reason for the bet is simply KU's defense is absolutely no match for the Texas offense.  There is a huge talent disparity here, Kansas has some stellar players but they are all on offense and the UT D is strong enough to stop them enough to cover this line.

Here's hoping your team rolls.


Mazdaspeed says:
11/14/08 02:37PM
Excellent points.  And I do apologize for taking your 'style points' definition to be the usual jackass meaning. You clearly meant it in the non 'Florida Teams' use of the term. 

 I agree that while Mack Brown is ever the soft spoken non-agitator, he knows what the team needs to get to the Big 12 championship game and beyond.  I agree that his concern late at least to some degree will be keeping the sunday morning voters from seeing an unfavorable score.

I agree 100% with your play, I think Texas is up AT LEAST 10 at half and only a deficit at half will prevent them from covering.  Sorry if the original post came off homerish, I have just seen "style points" and the prospect of Texas running the game up as peoples basis for play A LOT this week and felt the obvious evidence to the contarary was being ignored.  You clearly have the right mindset on this one.  GL!


BigHans says:
11/14/08 03:20PM
No worries Mazda, I actually did use the words "style points" so I can understand.  I want to see Texas in the BCS, preferrably against Florida.  Now THAT would be an entertaining game.

Go Horns.
talent888 says:
11/14/08 03:20PM
Nice write up... I love this play too. 
BigHans says:
11/14/08 03:53PM
Rest of the card, don't have as much time for writeups.  I've been better in the NFL this year anyway.

Texas -13.5 (2 Units)

USC -23 (2 Units)

Wisky -13.5 Over Minny 1 Unit

Wisky completely owns the Gophers when they play in Mad Town.  The Gophers got to where they were by playing East Cupcake and besides their win on the road in Illinois they have accomplished nothing of merit.  Brewster is an obsecnly over-rated coach and its a huge joke that 1) he was being mentioned for coach of the year awards 2 weeks ago, and 2) he has been rumored to be talking to Tennessee which is laughable and probably distracting the Gophers.  Decker, who is pretty much their offense, is out.  Rout.

Miss St +22 Over Alabama 1 Unit

SImple:  too many points.  SEC double digit dogs are usually bank.

UCLA -7 Over Washington 1 Unit

Ok, probably a sucker bet because the line should be at least 3 points higher and if Willingham is going to get a win this will be it.  I think Neuheisel sticks it to his old fan base though.  I simply cannot back Wash with only a touchdown.

Tulsa/Houston Over 80.  1 Unit

Actually surprised this isnt higher.  Both teams can engineer 80 yard scoring drives in under 2 minutes.  Didnt like the side as Houston is a dangerous home dog.  I wish I could be watching this one.

Oregon State -3 Over CAL -

Amazingly OSU is going to probably win the PAC 10.  CAL played SC tough last week but also got beat up.  OSU nails at home.

Arizona State -35.5 Over Washington State

I just cant resist, I cant.  WSU got their first cover of the year against Zona, and they still lost by 30+.  This is one of the worst teams I have ever seen.  I will fade until they don't play any more games.

Middle Tennessee vs Western Kentucky -2.5

Looks to be some line movement here.  Admittedly I'm not a savant of the Sun Belt so fellow cappers unite.

Colorado State +2

They gave BYU all they could handle at home and their offense is more than capable of winning this straight up.

Georgia -10

Im pissed I didnt get on this earlier.  SEC road double digit chalk.  Probably a square bet but I can't see Auburn hanging here.


BOL to everyone, off to Minneapolis for some serious partying this weekend!


Mazdaspeed says:
11/14/08 04:06PM
"wish I could be watching this one"

I hear you.  Moving to Chicago from Texas was the worst thing that ever happened to my college football watching.  ESPN has locked down more games than they used to but I used to be able to see all Big 12 games, lots of CUSA, WAC, Sun Belt and most SEC games no problem and the bar down the street showed anything else I wanted.

In Chicago I had to drive down to the Brownstone Bar just to see Texas games because NO ONE had them on.  PPV for a top ten team in conference against ANOTHER top 10 team?  FU Big 10 country.  FU in the GD A.


I moved back to Texas this week, I can't wait to get my watch on.
longhornswin says:
11/14/08 04:36PM
I agree, and will probably end up on them before gametime.  I've bet them all year, and they've won me some cash!  I watched KU get pulverized by TxTech on their home turf, simply by pressuring Reesing enough to make poor decisions.  He's not a tall guy either, so the bigger the lineman, the harder it is for him to see down the field, especially when they are in his face.  I believe Muschamp will do that in this matchup, and Texas should score at will!  Texas and Oklahoma just aren't teams that get caught looking ahead!  We always look forward to the matchup with A&M, and the Aggies always play us tough!  GL, BigHans!!
hoschy says:
11/14/08 05:39PM
DAWGPRINT says:
11/14/08 07:59PM
Hey great write up,  Gotta say I'm on the other side, this game's a trap. 

TX should be 24 pt fav.

Taking +14 if I can buy the hook.


Mazdaspeed says:
11/14/08 11:37PM


The line could be 70 and people would still take Texas.  They don't need a low line to get people to bet Texas.
bense197969 says:
11/15/08 01:48PM

 

Sorry for the delayed response, I'm a very busy person.  I got -120.  I could've gotten UNDER 8 for -200 but I went with 7.5.  Texas ain't looking so hot right now leading 7-0, the cold weather might be getting to 'em.  Hopefully they heat up.

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