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Last time I explain the Boise St. thing

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Posted Wednesday, July 27, 2011 08:48 AM   118 comments
Listen, I read here in the forum where you guys continue to disrespect Boise State. I either think it's because you're in absolute denial or maybe it's the fact you don't understand football. I think some of you refuse to believe football is played anywhere other than the south ( before you cast the first stone, I'm from the south, trust me I get it ) But my question is, when is enough, ENOUGH!!!

I live, sleep and spend countless hours devoting my life to the game of college football. In all my years this is the one subject that really truly baffles me about the overall persecution of one certain team.

What else does Boise have to do? What? These guys continue to perform at a high level on the national stage time after time. And yes, I do acknowledge that there schedule isn't as hard as a SEC, ACC, Big Ten, PAC 12 etc... schedule. But do they not perform at a high level every time there called upon?

Here are the Facts:

Every time they win a big game, it's because there only having to get up for one game.

Well, it's the first game of the year.....so this team hadn't worked out all the kinks yet. UHHHHH, it's Boise S.T first game too!!!

It's that damn field, it's not fair...... I thought your talent was superior to there's. Right? You know Kellen Moore was a one star recruit, right!!!

They run trick plays to win..... OK, really. So now not only are you getting the shit kicked out of you, but now your crying about the fact that your being out coached as well.

They have to play " neutral site " games just to get action. And if any of you think that Boise traveling all the way across the country to play a " neutral site " against Georgia is a equal in any fashion or fair..........Then your a fucking idiot. Truth is, NO team in the country has the balls to travel to Idaho and play these guys. NOT ONE!!

Whats really sad is, most of you try to use the example of when Boise played Georgia like a million years ago to gauge who they are... Guess what idiots.... That aint the same team, NO WAY.  

They couldn't stand up to a real team's front 7. Really, go look up the facts. Boise has OWNED every team statically they have played.... " on a Big Stage ".

Here's the truth..... I could go all night............. and you know what? It still wouldn't matter. Because to most of you guys think this team that plays on the blue field, isnt a real football team. Guys wake up. Boise is for real.

BTW.... When Boise beats Georgia..... ( you know, the " neutral site " game )..... it will be another excuse to WHY they did.

I m officially done with this subject............... Probably wont even respond to anything in this thread.




If you dont agree.........then we agree to dis agree.
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SatNightFever05 says:
07/27/11 10:40AM


So you are saying Boise isn't elite because they don't have the daily grind as other bigger, conferences? I get that, OK. no refuting that- though I will say LY Boise's overall SOS was just about even with Ohio State's..

I will ask this though- if Boise isn't elite, why can't any of the big boys beat them?  It's the 1st game of the year for everybody.. the 'weekly grind' hasn't set in yet, so fatigue or injuries shouldn't be an issue..

Boise beats these teams on 'neutral' fields, even though, let's be honest, they are basically home games- UGA this year, VT last year.. oh yea, also whipped Oregon two years in a row.. so again, if Boise isn't elite, then why can't any team beat them in a one game situation?

Let me guess, Boise beats UGA this year, it'll be because UGA looking ahead to SC next week because the SEC East crown is more important?


Wood says:
07/27/11 02:24PM
Ummm refresh my memory, but did Boise St. even win the terrible WAC last year? I didn't think so..Instead of crying for national respect, maybe they should focus on winning whatever terrible conference they're in..
brittc2 says:
07/27/11 02:26PM
Not that I am on here to knock boise state because that is like beating a dead horse but UGA was a 6-7 team last year so for everyone out there talking like UGA is the crown of the SEC and a prefect example of SEC football, you are wrong(I am a UGA fan by the way). That being said I do believe this is going to be a great game and hopefully a perfect way for UGA to start their ride back to some respect
jimmydafreak says:
07/27/11 02:50PM

This post does not apply to you Boom!!! 

Ok, let's see how my "wild-ass predictions" have fared over the last few years.

Opening game of the '08 season I made the Bama/Clemson game a "Max Bet" game. I predicted that unranked Bama would not only beat 6th ranked Clemson straight up, but that Bama would physically dominate them, and that the game wouldn't be very close. Covers of course, had the usual band of Oompa Loompa's with chocolate chips on their shoulders who said I was crazy, nuts, a homer, etc. They rationalized that since Bama couldn't even beat Louisiana-Monroe that surely they'd be blown out by Clemson. My predicted score was 31-17. The actual score was 34-10. I still have the write-up for that game. Would you like to see it? Result: I won $$$

Later the same year I came out with my second "Max Bet" play in the Bama/Georgia game. Bama was a 7-point underdog. I made essentially the same prediction. I said not only would Bama win, but that they would do so convincingly. The Oompa Loompa's said that was impossible because this was a blackout game, and Georgia has never lost a blackout game. I also have my write-up for that game. Final Score 41-30. Result: I won $$$

My third "Max Bet" of that year was on the Bama/Auburn game. Auburn had begun the year highly ranked. Again I said the game wouldn't be close, but again the Covers Oompa Loompa's chimed in with their familiar refrain. Abuburn has beaten Bama 6 times in a row. No way can Bama win. Ahhhh. . . but they did 36-0. Result: I won $$$

The next season, in my Bama pre-season write-up I predicted Bama would beat Florida in the SEC Championship Game and Texas in the national championship game. Notice this was my "pre-season" write-up. Oh the Oompa Loompa's were not pleased with my latest "wild-ass prediction." Of course there was no way this could come to fruition because Bama couldn't even beat Utah, and the whole team would fall apart because QB John-Parker Wilson was gone. There is no way Bama could win with Greg McElroy under center. I still have the write-up. Result: I was right.

My next "wild-ass prediction" and "Max Bet" game was the season-opening Bama/VT game. I said that because Bama had superior talent across the board, VT would not be able to hang with them for 4 quarters. But as we have learned from the Oompa Loompa's in this thread, that couldn't be so because talent has nothing to do with winning football games. A pee wee football team could show up in the Georgia Dome and beat The Dawgs as long as they wear Boise blue. They also said Bama couldn't beat VT because Jason Worilds and Bud Foster's defense would kill McElroy in his first career start, and that Bama couldn't even beat Utah, so clearly they'll lose to the mighty VT. I still have my write-up on this game too. Final score was 34-24. Result: I won $$$

Bama/Missisippi was my next "Max Bet" game that year. There was much talk dating back to the pre-season how Mississippi had this game circled - they wanted revenge for the out-of-bounds call 2-years prior . . . yada, yada, yada. The Oompa Loompa's, being huggers of the propaganda channels of the mainstrem media, were sold. There you have it!!! Charlie Wonka has spoken. Jimmydafreak's lastest "wild-ass prediction would never come true . . . NEVER!!! Bama wins 26-3. Result: I won $$$

My next "wild-ass prediction" was in the SEC Championship game. I again predicted that Bama would win outright, and would do so convincingly. The Oompa Loompa's accused me of apostasy and were calling for my head!!! After all, Charlie Wonka and Tebow attended church together, and the oracles had pre-ordained that Tebow was destined to win his 3rd national title. How dare I predict their demise!!! Bama won 32-13. Result: I won $$$

I have "Max Bet" every SEC team in the national championship game for the past 5 years, and the Bama/Texas game was no different. In my write-up for that game I stated that "if Texas insists on using Colt McCoy as their halfback in this game as they have done all season, he may finish the game holding a clipboard." But that was just a "wild-ass prediction" though.

*** Continued ***

jimmydafreak says:
07/27/11 02:51PM

***Continued***

Before the Florida/Ohio Sate national championship game I posted extensively how absurd it was for Florida to be getting 7 points in that game. I said if anything it should be the other way around. I said Florida would beat the hell out of Ohio State. The Oompa Loompa's said this was impossible because Florida couldn't even beat Iowa, and not even the 1985 Bears defense could stop Troy Smith. Final scores for all "Max Bet" championship games: Florida 41 Ohio State 14, LSU 38 Ohio State 24, Florida 24 Oklahoma 14, Bama 37 Texas 21 & Auburn 22 Oregon 19. Result: I won $$$ (& lots of it).

Although it was not anywhere close to a "Max Bet" game, I predicted last season that Virginia Tech would beat Boise convincingly.  And had VT not completely self-destructed in the 1st quarter of that game, that's exactly what would have happen. Boise won 33-30 however. Result: Push

My first "Max Bet" game last year was Penn State/Bama. I predicted PSU would not score in the double digits. Oh the Oompa Loompa's laughed. Bama had to replace almost their entire defense from the previous year, so of course that wasn't possible. Bama won 24-3 and PSU didn't score in DD. I have the write-up. Result: I won $$$.

My next and (other than the national championship game) last "Max Bet" game was Bama @ Arkansas. I said that not only would Bama cover the spread, but they would win it by 3 TDs. And had McElroy not completely shit himself in that game, Bama would have indeed won that game by that margin. Bama won 24-20 but did not cover. Result: I lost $$$.

My comments last year about Garret Gilbert were in a general pre-season discussion thread about teams who people thought would be overrated. In response to the people who said Texas was overrated because of the loss of McCoy, I said that Gilbert was a more prototypical QB and much higher rated QB than McCoy. I said I wouldn't be at all surprised if he turned out to be a better QB than McCoy. Again, this was a discussion thread, and in no way a prediction much less a ”wild-ass” one. I merely pointed out that it would not be surprising if he was. It may still turn out that way. The careers of both QBs are a long way from being finished.

My comments regarding Bama's defense were in response to the all-knowing Oompa Loompa's who predicted the cataclysmic collapse of Bama's defense due to the loss of 9 starters. I said their defense wouldn't collapse, and that the incoming starters were more talented than the departing starters, and that I thought they'd be even better. And as I explained in that write-up (which I still have btw) one of the reasons I felt that way was because I thought the pass rush would be much improved due to Marcel Dareus and Courtney Upshaw (both new starters). In fact I chose Upshaw as my unknown player to keep your eye on. My previous two picks of Terrence Cody and Marcel Dareus were right on the money.

In '09 Bama's defense gave up 164 points for an average of 12.62 ppg. Last season they surrendered 176 ppg for an average of 13.54; virtually identical numbers despite playing a far more difficult schedule. Not the defensive collapse predicted by the Oompa Loompa's.

And had Bama's best two pass rushers, Dareus & Upshaw (the very two I mentioned in my pre-season write-up), not been playing injured the entire season, undoubtedly they would have posted better numbers than the previous season. The Michigan State game was the only time Bama's defense was able to showcase what the Dareus/Upshaw combination was capable of.  My prediction was very close, far closer than the complete defensive collapse that had been forecasted by the Oompa Loompa's.

Pending "wild-ass predictions:"

1. Georgia's athlete's are superior to Boise's athletes which will lead to a convincing win for the Dawgs in the Georgia Dome on September 3rd.

2. When the NCAA's Auburn investigation is complete, it'll result in the largest cheating scandal in NCAA history.

Let's see how those two turn out.

My "wild-ass predictions" have resulted in 11 bets won, 1 bet lost and 1 push. Yeah, I really need to stop make these "wild-ass predictions."  It’s making mw way too much money, and having a deleterious effect on the Cover's message board.

So my question is, if my "wild-ass predictions" turn out to be right, which they almost always are, were they really "wild-ass predictions to begin with?

Well BA, one thing for sure, the best way to never be wrong on a "wild-ass prediction" is to never make one. That will always give you plausible deniability, and frees you up to mock those who do . . . even if they're right. But then again, whether the "wild-ass predication" is right or wrong doesn't really matter does it?  What matters is its message-board fodder value when a "wild-ass prediction" conflicts with your own little reality, and threatens to damage your e-cred.  And e-cred is much more important than actually winning money.

Arid_Torpor says:
07/27/11 02:55PM
Here's what I see, jimmy. Being a bama homer has been kind to you over the last couple years. 
Lucan says:
07/27/11 02:56PM

First of all you're going under the assumption nobody wants to play them, to much media talk interfering with people minds, okay look at this way...

You hear bad things about somebody and then you meet them, in your mind you still thinking about what you heard, it's mind over matter.

What goes on behind closed doors, me or you would never know. Could it be Bosie State wants to much money. Could it be they don't want to play but one power house team per year with a chance they win and keep this on going they are deserving for the title to get attention to their program to get more donations or even students and good recruits.

They been at the bottom publicly maybe they just like the spot light hell i could go on and on. But you can't convince me a team like Alabama with a roster of 4 star & 5 star players are scared to play a team with players that wished they had the talent of 4 star & 5 star player.

It's a 98% chance Bosie State would get crushed by a defense like Alabama and then what. There's goes the attention, why take a chance keep things like it is, because sooner are later if they keep playing just one power house team a year and the rest cupcakes.

The media will get them in the National Championship game....and if they make it to the Nation Championship game, they did it playing cupcakes.

The ending to a great scam...

Saban has called out Bosie State for 2 years now, saying they don't play teams to make it to the Nation Championship game...has Peterson had a news conference saying Saban is wrong and Alabama can bring it on...hell no and he won't.

If i was Bosie State i would put an offer on the table, for millions if Alabama would play us. The reward would be 5+ times what ever they put out if they won and they would get their money back just playing Alabama on national T.V. But like i said why take to chance, because once they fail the attention is over.

Let me guess, you listen to the media to much were you can't see the truth.

You can take this to the bank and draw interest on it. Georgia is not looking ahead to S.C. they or planning to beat this dog shit out of Bosie State, so come game day you remember that capping this game!!!

 

SatNightFever05 says:
07/27/11 03:22PM


Jimmy.. no one cares.. and the game above is the only game I remember and please don't try to justify it..  Hogs covered the entire game and should have won outright..

SatNightFever05 says:
07/27/11 03:27PM


your first point is just your opinion and you have no actual facts that support that.. the last time we saw that great Bama defense vs. a non-BCS team in a big game, Brian Johnson was too busy anally raping each and every one of them..

Your second post- who do you think is less likely to accept that deal?  Boise or Bama?

Sure Bama will play them- at home or at a 'neutral' field like the Sugar Bowl or the Georgia Dome..

Why doesn't any of the real big boys be a man and do an actual home and home?

It's simple- because the big boys have nothing to gain.. they win- Boise gets discredited as not a real opponent, they lose, all hell breaks loose.. there's a certain politics to CFB and this is just one of the many reasons why we need a playoff or at least a plus 1..

Again, it's a lose lose situation for any big boy that would challenge Boise State in a home and home..

bookieassassin says:
07/27/11 04:07PM
just messin' with ya Freak.....
the (what I thought) to be obvious point.....was the extreme and unnecessary extent of the predictions.....not the prediction itself...
in a ....what can only be concluded (why else?).....intent on drawing attention to said prediction.....or most likely just yankin' our chain a little bit....as you did last year as mentioned
    
only thing necessary here is ......Georgia will cover.....and win > because......................."They win by 2-3 TD's" !!!........or whatever....standard stuff for sports bar.....silly on wagering forum

BUT.....all emotional / highly subjective/ Boise hating handicappers can have a small laugh at least .....as Broncos will not be allowed to wear blue jerseys in home conference games ....(entry to MTW required this > AD signed off).....Peterson not happy.....still can in non -conference games...

*only here to discuss CFB.....not to give out or receive picks or predictions...plus got enough "buddies" .....relentlessly hounding me for picks that better hit 65% or so....
tideman says:
07/27/11 04:24PM
 How much did you lose on that game? you must have taken Jimmy's advice, broke into your piggy bank and lost your lifes savings, because I can't think of any other reason why you would be so obsessed with his loss. You act as though you have never picked a loser, the way that you have brought up that game to him, whenever his opinion doesn't match yours. For all of the Covers / Wagerline members who have been following these forums over the years, knows that Jimmy has been solid, and has contributed alot to this forum. Try showing some class for once, instead of the arrogant garbage that you normally spew.
SatNightFever05 says:
07/27/11 04:44PM


Sorry- had Arkansas in that one
jwheels86 says:
07/27/11 04:45PM
I know I was on Arkansas all the way in that game at +7.5
jimmydafreak says:
07/27/11 05:35PM

. . . and if Bama would have won that game convincingly as they would have had McElroy not self-destructed, then you wouldn't have remember this game either.  It's a disorder called "selective memory."  It seems to inflict a lot of politicians too.  But fret not, I have still have the write-ups for almost all of them if you need a memory boost.

 

SatNightFever05 says:
07/27/11 05:58PM


Yes, it had nothing to do with the 360 yards Mallett threw to put Ark in a position to win

Or the 3 picks Mallet threw (one in the Bama end zone), and one returned down to the Hogs 15 that set up the game winning score or the 200 yards of rushing by Ingram and Richardson..

but alas, I digress.. you are right.. it was McElroy that cost Bama the cover..
jwheels86 says:
07/27/11 06:24PM
God kickoff needs to hurry up in this bitch
kroch says:
07/27/11 06:29PM


then by the same token, it was a gift McCoy was hurt in the National Championship.  McElroy had more sacks than completions as I recall.

and you wanted to take odds at laying 3 TDs in that game as I recall.


kroch says:
07/27/11 06:32PM
Jimmy- just to be fair, you were pretty much rolling max bets on Bama every week and calling it a gift.

That happens though when you become to stoked about your home team---happened to me in 2005 with the Horns. 

This is why I don't bet on my home teams unless an unusual circumstance (catching DDs @ Nebraska last year)
SatNightFever05 says:
07/27/11 06:57PM



D_Unit says:
07/27/11 11:45PM
Arky has a good chance to win @ Bama. Tyler Wilson is a more mobile and accurate passer than the previous QB.  Include Childs @ WR, I think Arky wins in a shootout.  Arky may very well win the SEC. Great darkhouse candidate.  Remeber, Wilson took Auburn to the bring of a loss @ Auburn.  Petrino is a helluva coach.
Lucan says:
07/28/11 12:35AM

I agree they do have a chance, should be a good game to watch.

jimmydafreak says:
07/28/11 01:13AM

No doubt that McElroy was absolutely pitiful in the Texas game, but that game played out much differently after McCoy got hurt.  Saban even said in his post-game interview that they basically went conservative.  That, however, doesn't excuse McElroy's performance.

As to your second point, that is absolutely not true at all.  I never, ever said anything about Bama winning by 2 or 3 TDs . . . NEVER.  I still have my write-up for that game, and my predicted final score was 27-17.  The impetus of my write-up was that I didn't think that Texas could score more than 17 points, and that I thought Bama would be able to control the game with their running attack.  Never, ever said anything about winning by 2 or 3 TDs.

Having said that, I did offer to take bets at Bama -6.5.  One guy on Covers took me up on it, and like the class guy he is, he paid the bet when he lost.

 

jimmydafreak says:
07/28/11 01:22AM

Again, not true Kroch.  I just posted every single max bet Bama game I played over the last three years.  I played Bama on other occasions, but they were pretty much standard size plays.

There were other non-Bama games that I place max-size bets on, but I didn't do write-ups for them.  I try to do the Bama write-ups, because I know them the best, and I try to share what I know with the board so help others win money as well.  Shoot I had a max bet on Akron/Army a couple of years ago.  I had some serious bettors remorse after I placed the bet when the line started dropping, but I pulled out a win.

Bookmaker actually double their max bet amount on college football last season, so last year's max bets weren't really true max bets.  The were the old max bet amounts.

jimmydafreak says:
07/28/11 02:36AM

Apparently you didn't actually watch the game, so let me break it down for you.

1st possession Arky scored a TD in about 50 seconds.  7-0 Arky

Bama's first possession McElroy throws an easy pick 6 to Arky defender but he dropped the ball.  They punted back to Arky.

Arky couldn't move the ball and punted back to Bama.

Mark Ingram had about a 50-yard TD run.  7-7

Arky answers with a FG.  10-7 Arky

Bama is forced to punt after McElroy fumbles the ball for a 10-yard loss.

Arky drives the ball down inside the 10.  On 3rd and goal Bama is in a dime package and drops 8 into coverage.  All receivers are blanketed.  Mallet attemps to force the ball to his 3rd option, and the ball is picked off.  Excellent defense, poor decision by Mallet.

Bama drives the ball down inside the 10 for a 1st and goal.  First play McElroy misses a wide open Julio.  Announcers comment how McElroy is missing all the easy throws.  On 3rd and goal Marquis Maze is standing all by himself at the goal line for an easy pitch & catch TD.  McElroy instead forces the ball into triple coverage and has the ball picked off.

Arky can't move the ball, and punts back to Bama.

Right before the end of the 1st half Arky's defense bites on a fake screen that leaves Darius Hanks running free down the sideline for another potential gimme TD.  But instead of leading Hanks to the outside and down the field, he floats the ball short and to the middle of the field.  Hanks has to stop and try to come back for the ball, but Arky's safety came all the way from the other side of the field to pick off the lame duck pass.

Arky scores a TD with 15 seconds remaining in the half.  17-7 Arky

So instead of the score being 21-10 Bama like it should have been had McElroy been able to execute rudimentary pass plays for a DI QB, Arky goes in the half with a 17-7 lead - a 21-point swing.

That's how McElroy single-handedly cost Bama backers what should have been an easy cover.  And that's why they call it gambling.

 

jimmydafreak says:
07/28/11 02:40AM

He absolutely did have Arky.  I remember it well.

 

jimmydafreak says:
07/28/11 02:41AM

I don't know where you got that.  I don't think the line ever got that high.  You had to have bought up to 7.5.

jimmydafreak says:
07/28/11 03:16AM

Well, I freely admit to yanking some chains from time-to-time especially when it comes to Boise because the Boise huggers are so sensitive, and so easily induced.

I am not an attention whore at all.  Years ago I use to start a lot of threads, but now I usually lay low and just post in a few selected threads like Booms.  Besides, when football season gets cranked up, the number of new threads are just out-of-hand.  The only new threads I usually start these days are threads pertaining to Bama because that's where I can provide the most insight to the board.  In short, I don't post on Bama for attention, I post on Bama to share my Bama knowledge with other Covers' posters so hopefully they can profit from it as well.  I think I have succeeded in doing that over the years.

I think that is a good decision from the Mountain West conference about Boise's home jersey color.  The blue on blue was a travesty to competitive fairness.

Lastly, as I have said time and time again, I am not a Boise hater in any way shape or form.  I will bet on any team at any time, and I will fade any team any time.  It's all about playing the odds, shopping for value, and winning money.  I have bet on Boise quite a bit over the last 8 years or so, and the amount of times I have faded them I could count on one hand.

For example, I had Boise +7 in their bowl game against TCU 2 years ago - an easy winner.  I am the biggest Boise hugger in the world when I have money riding on them, and their biggest hater when I'm fading them.

With respect to their game with Georgia, I'll play on the home dog with superior talent because the odds dictate that is the correct side, not because I hate Boise.  The fact that Georgia essentially has Mike Shula as their head coach will prevent me from making a large play on them though.  If Boise were playing Bama under the same circumstances, I'd put my house & car on it.

jwheels86 says:
07/28/11 06:21AM


I did, Im sure it is back in the threads we discussed from it.
jwheels86 says:
07/28/11 06:22AM


Any game involving Alabama will not turn into a shootout
zmas13 says:
07/28/11 10:16AM
Agree no big conference team wants to play a Boise St team. Big risk if they lose, and no reward if they win. For years Boise has been trying to get into the PAC 10 (12). That the Pac 10 would not have it, says less about a fear of Boise, but the Pac had a nice chemistry thing going. Each team had a nice rivalry with-in the Pac. The two Oregon teams, two Washington Teams, the Calf. teams. AZ etc. As for beating cupcakes, who they themselves were not long ago (Boise Community College), At least they do it in convicing fashion. With Vegas making them 40 point favs, AND covering the spread, most of the time. They go to the Mountain West and TCU runs like Hell.
SatNightFever05 says:
07/28/11 10:34AM


I'm almost positive that line went back and forth between 7 and 7.5.. I think it was 7.5 earlier in the week, dropped to 7 and went back to 7.5 on Saturday- I could be wrong about that part, but almost positive it went back and forth during the week at 7 and 7.5
DoubleUp4Life says:
07/28/11 11:44AM
This is turning into another Homer Thread
jimmydafreak says:
07/28/11 11:45AM

My recollection, and I could be mistaken, is that this line stayed under 7 the entire week.  In fact that was one of the primary reasons I liked the game so much.  I absolutely would not have made that game a "max bet" game if the line was 7 or above, that's for darn sure.  I'd have to scroll back though my betting history to say for sure, but I'm pretty sure I had Bama -6.  I had no worse than -6.5.  I don't reacall that it ever hit 7.  Covers lists the line at 6.5.  It really doesn't matter though, Hog backers got the  thanks to McElroy!!! 

 

 

bookieassassin says:
07/28/11 12:06PM

With respect to their game with Georgia, I'll play on

the home dog with superior talent because the odds dictate that is the

correct side, not because I hate Boise.  The fact that Georgia

essentially has Mike Shula as their head coach will prevent me from

making a large play on them though.  If Boise were playing Bama under

the same circumstances, I'd put my house & car on it.


that's better....but not even close to your earlier posts.....which basically said Boise is a fraud that will lose by 2-3 TD's or so....maybe just say what you mean in the 1st place?.....

I have NO issue at all with taking Georgia and points ...

 



jimmydafreak says:
07/28/11 12:15PM

That depends on what your definition of "is" is. 

 

SatNightFever05 says:
07/28/11 12:23PM


I had it at 7.. think it was there for a while.. might have dipped b/w 6.5 and 7 then the rest of the week
bookieassassin says:
07/28/11 12:23PM


I gotta do all the work here?...

offshore....opened at 7 most everywhere.....never got to 6 on any major book.....

Pinny......Greek....and 5 Dimes.....went to 7' ....9/20 morning....later dropped to 6' at Pinny (9/25 morn) where it closed.....closed at 7 at Greek and 5 Dimes....where didn't get to 6' unless for minute or so....or at crap books  
jimmydafreak says:
07/28/11 01:05PM

Apparently you do becasue I'm way too busy and way too lazy to put that much effort in it.

 

TRAIN69 says:
07/28/11 10:01PM

Yep

nostradamus12 says:
07/28/11 11:04PM
interesting how there's much more focus on BSU than TCU...very almost identical...tight bowl games vs each other 08 and 09..two very good teams who benefit from easier schedules and would typically go 9-3 playing a full B12, P12, SEC, ACC, etc schedule
wiseguy43 says:
08/01/11 10:29AM
My opinion of the "nation" vs Boise is that I think everyone is scared they will lose to them. I've watched college football for the last 22 yrs and I just love it but, it strikes me that a team like Boise when trying to gain respect by moving into a stronger conference gets none. The chickenshit teams like BYU,TCU, & Utah findout Boise is joining the conference they move out. I'm not saying that Boise would finish with the records that they have been finishing with if they were in the SEC,ACC,Big ten ect but they are trying to gain respect and national attention and it seems that no one wants to give them their dues.
bulldoginohio says:
08/02/11 01:00PM
sick of people saying every time Boise St plays a top conferance they have stood up for the challenge.I believe Boise St is a great program with a great coach and Georgia has very much underachieved with the talent they have had, but bringing up Central Florida and Colorado from last year is just as bad as people bringing up how the Dogs destroyed Boise St in 2005.But the people posting wins over Oregon St,Oregon, Va Tech and Oklahoma seem to forget about the losses to BC,East Carolina,TCU,and Washington.
2005 0-3   Oregon ST, Georgia plus loss to BColl in bowl game
2006 2-0   Oregon St ,win in a bowl game over Oklahoma
2007 0-2   Washington,  plus loss East Carolina in a bowl game
2008 1-1   Oregon     Loss to TCU  in  Bowl game
2009 2-0  Oregon  and win over TCU in a bowl game
2010 3-0   Oregon St,Virgina Tech  and Utah bowl game
With all that said should be a good game against a program trying to get respect (Boise)nationally and one trying to regain respect(Georgia),With that said GO DAWGS.
Lucan says:
08/02/11 07:13PM

lindetrain says:
08/02/11 07:25PM

I don't think you get the argument we're making.  We're comparing Boise to athletically superior competition, NOT inferior athletic competition.  Losses to ECU and Washington are irrelevant in this case, as we're not talking about Boise playing a team with inferior talent.  

When playing teams superior in talent, there's really no argument - you can't find a team who comes to play more than Boise.
GoCougs says:
08/08/11 01:49AM
Completely agree Boom Boom. Boise will roll in Week 1. Since when is Georgia a good team? Because they play in the SEC? Boise is currently a top 5 program right now and Georgia is lucky to be a top 30 program. Richt is on his way out.
Arid_Torpor says:
08/08/11 02:08AM

The only thing that keeps me off Boise (big) is that coaches who are on the hot seat often pull a great result out of nowhere. I distinctly recall Phil Fulmer doing it against Georgia in '07 (Tennessee won 35-14, Georgia finished #2). Georgia's performance against Tennessee last year had something of that in it, but that UT team wasn't the kind of high quality opponent Boise is, so Richt's seat remains hot, and he needs to start pulling some wins out of his ass. That can go one of two ways but can be hard to predict. 
jimmydafreak says:
08/08/11 02:12AM

ECU & Washington both had better talent than Boise.  If you're going to remove someone from the list, last year's Oregon State's team was pretty bad.

Regardless, Boise isn't beating Georgia.

 

jimmydafreak says:
08/08/11 02:17AM

Georgia isn't going to win because Richt is on the hot seat, their going to win because their bigger, faster and more athletic.  This game will look exactly like Boise's previous games against the SEC.  The game won't be close.

 

jwheels86 says:
08/08/11 03:37AM


Do you really have that much confidence in this Georgia team?
DoubleUp4Life says:
08/08/11 12:39PM

Not for nothing Brother Jimmy  ...

But I believe you said Auburn had NO Chance of winning the SEC West LY....maybe something crazy like Bama's second team could WIN the SEC....

the more I read of your stuff it sounds Like BLIND homerism

 

Arid_Torpor says:
08/08/11 12:45PM

I just can't see your perspective on this one. Boise was still coached by Dan Hawkins last time they played an SEC team. Last time they played a team with SEC talent (Oklahoma), they won. The last three times they've played teams with major conference championship talent (Oklahoma, Oregon, Virginia Tech), they won. But this one game six years ago with Dan Hawkins as the coach is somehow still the benchmark? 
The8ofCups says:
08/08/11 10:16PM
Why help the idiots?  I say let Boise State continue to play under the radar, and just rake in the
bookieassassin says:
08/09/11 12:09AM


EASY......he's here to sucker in the weak minded.....and to make a BIG splash.....with a "talent always wins".....philosophy.....which requires ZERO study time ....

with huge rewards.....and very little penalty
for if he is correct....EVERYONE remembers..." hey man the FREAK said Georgia would win big!"....if wrong.....so what ....everybody knew it would be close anyway...

after week 1 or 2 ....her regains his senses and returns to a more responsible method of handicapping..................................
KittyKatz286 says:
08/09/11 12:18AM
He's right...the game won't be close. Boise wins by 2 touchdowns.
jimmydafreak says:
08/09/11 03:08AM

Absolutely.  As I have explained in my Boise thread, I think Georgia is poised for a breakout season, much like Alabama had following their 2007 7 & 6 season.

While I'm not predicting Georgia to go 12 & 0, I see many parallels between the two:  purging bad apples from the roster, a new effective strength & conditioning program, signs of being a much more disciplined team (drastically improved penalty and turnover margin rankings last season), second year in the 3-4 defense, excellent defensive coordinator, and outstanding recruiting.

Phil Steel and I agree wholeheartedly on the Dawgs.  While I still think there's a lot of parity in the SEC East between Georgia, Florida, USC & Tennessee, I believe that ultimately Georgia rise to the top of the East and face Bama in the SEC Championship Game.

jimmydafreak says:
08/09/11 03:09AM

Bosie is NOT a top 5 team.  Not even close.

 

jimmydafreak says:
08/09/11 03:33AM

You are incorrect on both counts.  I never said either of those things last season, or any other season for that matter.

Last year I said that becasue of their extremely harsh schedule, I though Bama would lose 1-2 games, and said that their danger games would be Florida, USC (especailly if they beat Florida the previous week) and LSU.  I said that even if they lost two games, I thought they would still probably still win the West by default becasue I didn't think any of the other teams would likely finish any better than 6 & 2.

What I said about Auburn last season was that I absolutely love us Malzahn, and once again praised the hire.  I said it would be interesting to see if SEC defensive coordinators would catch up to his scheme somewhat in his second season.

I went on to say that Auburn was a complete wildcard team to me.  I thought they could have a 6 & 6 type season again, could win the West, or anything in between.  I said that while they had a very talented and experienced lineup, I didn't think they had enough depth to run through the rigors of a SEC schedule unscathed.  I said keeping their starters healthy would be key for them.

I also said their was no precendence of any JUCO QB transfer having great success in their first season in the SEC, while acknowledging what great potential Cam Newton was.  I said if he struggled, Auburn would probably finish closer to that 6 & 6 mark, but if he lights up the league, they could probably make a run at the title.

My prospects for Auburn this season are much more pessimistic.  I think they'll be lucky to win 6 games.  I don't see many games on their schedule that I feel very good about them winning.

Honestly, if it were not for the heat factor, I think Utah State would give them a pretty good game in week one.  The clear heat advantage for Auburn, however, will keep me off that game.

 

 

jimmydafreak says:
08/09/11 04:59AM

Well first of all Dan Hawkins did a great job at Boise.  In fact he set the stage for Chris Petersen's success.  Most pundits believed that Boise would fall a bit after his departure.

Had it not been for Hawkins' success,  I seriously doubt Boise would have been given the opportunity to play Oklahoma in the Fiesta Bowl.  Boise fever began under the Hawkins regime, and intesified under the Peterson regime.

As we (gamblers) know, every game must be weighed on it's own merits, and that there are many factors to be weighed.  And anyone who has been in the business any length of time knows that bowl season is a completely different animal than the regular season.

Every bowl season we see lesser teams knock-off teams from the big-boy conferences:  Boise/Oklahoma, Utah/Bama, Central Florida/Georgia, etc., etc.  This stuff happens every bowl season.

The main reason the Boise victory over Oklahoma stood out so much was because it was BSC Bowl, and it was probably one of the greatest college football games ever played.  It was tremendous game with a lot of great sub-plots.  That said, a dominating Utah victory over a 12 & 1 Bama team was probably more impressive than an extremely fortuitous win by Boise over a 2-loss Oklahoma team.

Bowl matchups like this many times mean almost nothing to BSC conference teams, and mean everything to the non-BCS conference team, so the latter has a gigantic motivational edge.  Moreover, NFL draftable players on the BCS team playing a meaningless bowl game are usually much more concerned with preparing, and staying healthy for the NFL combines/draft than there are winning a meaningless bowl game.  Heck Colt McCoy did it in the national championship game.  He mailed it in and elected to focus on his NFL career after getting knocked out of the game.

In short, while it was clearly a great and impressive win for Boise, these type of wins by the Davids in relatively meaningless bowl games against the Goliaths with a decisive talent advantage is not that uncommon at all.

The Oregon wins are also very impressive because Oregon was very good team in their own right both seasons.  I bet on Boise in the 2008 meeting in Eugene, but bet it the other way in the 2009 opener.

The 2009 opener was Chip Kelly's first game as a head coach, and he was terribly outcoached in that game.  In fact I remeber thinking how horribly unprepared Oregon was for that game.  They were completely one-dimensional offensively.  Once Boise stacked the box on them to take away the run, they were completely lost in the passing game.  But that game fit right into my theory of when a defense has extra time to prepare for a gimmic offense, the defense usually shuts them down.

The Virginia Tech game is an entirely different animal.  Had VT not completely self-destructed with one ridiculous unforced error after another, which allowed Boise to jump out to an effortless 17-0 lead, VT would have won that game easily.

After the first quarter VT outscored Boise 30-9 until the refs ultimately gift-wrapped 44 yards of field position for Boise on the game-winning drive.  So instead of having to drive the ball 80-yards, they only had to go 36.  And had VT not made some ridiculous play calls that essentially prevented them from having a chance to convert a game-clinching 1st down, Boise wouldn't have even had an opportunity for that game-winning drive.

With second and 4, Tyrod Taylor essentially conceeded a 5-yard sack as if he was trying to run out the clock instead of attempting to convert a 1st down.  Then on 3rd and 9, Taylor attempted to complete a bomb down the right sideline that fell incomplete, stopping the clock for Boise who had no timeouts remaning.  Ponderous play-calling to say the least.

I have that game downloaded on my computer and have watched 6-7 times.  What is quite clear is that had VT not comletely self-destructed with unforced errors in the 1st quarter, they would have cruised to a fairly comfortable double-digit victory as I predicted they would.

In short, the VT game demostrates why Boise will likely not be competitive against Georgia, not the other way around.  To lay 3 points to the Dawgs in the Georgia Dome on the hope and prayer that Boise will be blessed with similar uncanny luck is simply financial suicide IMO.

What is the SEC known for?  Answer:  Defense.  Year in and year the SEC proves that what seperates them from the other conferences is defense.  So while victories against Oklahoma, Oregon and VT are impressive, none of those teams had a SEC caliber defense.  VT is close, but they don't have SEC level talent.

Lastly, what would be really impressive, is if Boise would beat Oklahoma, Oregon, Oregon State, VT, and 3-4 other teams of similar caliber in the same season like teams from BCS conferences have to do.  If they did that (which they couldn't), then they would be a legitimate top 10 team.

Boise's offense will not eclipse the 14-point mark in this game.  Their best chance to win is for their defense to keep them in the game, which is possible against a Georgia offense that has some vulnerabilities.  Ultimately I still think Georgia will score in the high 20s to low 30s.  I'll stick with my predicted final score of 31-10 Dawgs.

 

SatNightFever05 says:
08/09/11 11:00AM


1- you have no proof to say that Boise couldn't do that..

and 2- I'll gladly take a bet with you Over Boise TT 14 points..

eyedog says:
08/09/11 03:56PM

Boise a top-5 team ????

Are you kidding me ? There are people on this board that actually believe that ?

Stop following the ESPN spin machine on this team and stop following your heart because they cover 40 pts spreads against the San Jose's and New Mex St.'s every year.

They are a good program that is well coached but put them into any of the the top 3 or 4 conferences and they would be doing great by winning 7-8 games a year.

GEEZUS. I thought you guys knew what you were talking about.

jimmydafreak says:
08/09/11 04:17PM

Simple logic finds that I can't prove something that hasn't happened.  Be that as it may, I do have common sense.

I will take Georgia +3 and Boise TT under 14.5 for an equal or lesser amount.  You name the amount.

 

jimmydafreak says:
08/09/11 04:22PM

You can have Boise -3 (the prevailing line), and Boise TT over 14.5 for $100 each.  "Rookies," however, must produce money upfront.

 

jimmydafreak says:
08/09/11 04:37PM

We're not talking about Georgia, we're talking about Boise.  Pay attention!!!  Put away the psychotropic drugs and focus here!!!

If you want to be the best, you have to beat the best, and you can beat the best if you don't play the best.  Playing a 1-game schedule does not a top 10 team make.  When Boise schedules and beats 4 respectable BSC schools on the road like every other legitimate DI program has to do, then they will have a resume worthy of a top 10 ranking . . . not before.

 

jimmydafreak says:
08/09/11 04:40PM

You are overly-optimistic about the football IQ of many of the posters on this board.  Fret not, most of them won't be heard from again after week 4.

 

jimmydafreak says:
08/09/11 05:04PM

I never said "talent always wins."  If fact I said the exact opposite.

That being said, in as much as stat comparisons are completely meaningless in this game because a) it's the first game of the season, and b) Boise accumulates obsence stats against ridiculously weak competition.  Thus, assessing the talent level of both teams is the best method of evaluation available.

It's sort of like a real estate appraisal.  You have a market approach, a cost approach and an income approach.  If one of those approaches is not applicable to a particular piece of property, then you go with whatever remains.  Same thing here.

In any event, I have also analyzed and posted the other salient points of this game, but you choose to ignore that apparently in some lame attempt to bolster your e-cred or something.  Not really sure.

 

SatNightFever05 says:
08/09/11 07:48PM


Actually, you basically said just that.. from your earlier post:


"Wagering is all about playing odds, and the odds are,

where the motivation of both teams is equal (which it is here), the more

talented team will win most of the time, especially when the more

talented team has homefield advantage."

tideman says:
08/09/11 09:14PM
The more talented team DOES win most of the time, not always
thesouth says:
08/09/11 09:14PM
boise is real good. if they do beat an sec team to start the year look out. gameday will talk about it at length and that will give them the boost to play for it all if they sweep the board. on the other hand it will give the ga coach one foot out the door since he is already on the hot seat and the sec will view it as an embarrassing loss for the conference, etc.
jimmydafreak says:
08/09/11 09:51PM

You have proved my point.

SatNightFever05 says:
08/10/11 01:54AM


doesn't make any sense..

you tell bookie that the exact opposite of "talent always wins" but are quoted as saying talent most of the time wins..

how are those 2 opposites?
jimmydafreak says:
08/10/11 03:22AM

Because the words "does" and "doesn't" are opposites.

 

bookieassassin says:
08/10/11 10:49AM
I actually hope you are right Freak....it is a treat to see someone blindly throwing so many (crimson/white) handicapping darts....with such emotion....desperately hoping at least ONE lands true....


     * don't forget tho...Georgia must win by at least 10 pts or so...as

predicting a simple cover....and possibly/probably winning

outright....wasn't good enough ..> Dawgs win a close one (IMO about

45-50 % shot)....and you were wrong

BUT....regardless of outcome.....a 200 or so yardage advantage by Georgia means you were right...kinda

me >  very small recreational wager on Boise 1H...with much larger ?...alcohol fueled one on Dawgs 2H..< if set up right...   

GoCougs says:
08/10/11 11:06AM
Prediction machine, a site I believe in does 50 thousand game simulations with this year's rosters, Boise is projected to be the 4th best team in the country this year. They have Bama 1st Oklahoma 2nd and Oregon 3rd. Georgia is 29th. The people that think Boise sucks just because they don't get top 25 recruiting classes or because they are not in a BCS league are just idiots. And the people that think Georgia is good because they're in the SEC are idiots as well. Boise has beat Oregon twice, they beat Oklahoma, they beat Virginia Tech, they win most of their bowl games and they blow out all the teams in their league. They have one of the top qbs in country returning. They have one of the best coaching staffs in country. What more do they have to do to get some respect? I guess kicking Georgia's ass will have to do.
jimmydafreak says:
08/10/11 12:27PM

I'm hoping I can make it back from the Kent State game in time to catch the second half.  I won't be drunk unfortunately.

I agree with your assessment.  For me to be right to my satisfaction two things must happen.  First Georgia must win the game game decisively (at least DD), and second Boise's offense must struggle to score.  The first is really contingent upon the second anyhow.  If Boise gets up into the 20s it'll be difficult for Georgia to win by DD, paticularly since I see Georgia's offense only scoring in the 25-35 point range.  I think Boise's best chance to win is for this to be a low-scoring defense game.

I do not blindly throw darts.  I bet way too much money to do that.  I have an annual money goal.  If I don't hit it, the kids walk around barefooted for the next year.  This is strictly a business for me.  I will bet for or against any team at any time if I think I can make a buck off of it.

 

DoubleUp4Life says:
08/10/11 12:47PM

Kellen Moore only needs 8 Wins this season to become the Winningest QB in NCAA History 

lsufasteddie says:
08/10/11 01:10PM
Lucan says:
08/10/11 03:22PM

Lucan says:
08/10/11 04:20PM

 

Gotta love this site, if you have an option and people don't agree you or an idiot.

If the Georgia Bulldogs has half the hate i have for Boise State they will be 100 yds in penalties against them by the end of the 1st half. If i was Richt i would sick the Dawgs on them so hard the ride back home would be one they would never forget.

Watch Richt here he has a game plan and it will be a big motivation for the Dawgs, I'm just glad its not Alabama playing them in their 1st game trying to save their coach his job, and its not going to be pretty and Boise State will be the victims here.

Then after the game all the Boise State fans will be here saying...

That fucking ref give Georgia the game, the SOB was off sides, he grabbed his face mask and the fucking refs, or a kumquat pussy loving SEC fan.

Losing this game Boise State will still be the best, winning this game they will still be the best.

I can see it now...what a fucking joke!!!!!!!!

 

 

 

SatNightFever05 says:
08/10/11 04:29PM


Richt and game plan in the same sentence makes me

Also, everyone I've talked to who lives down in the ATL or is a Bulldog fan thinks the SC game the week after is MUCH larger.. don't think the Boise game has much effect on whether Richt gets fired enough.. the SC and UF games will be most critical to him staying on as the coach, imo..

mattbrot says:
08/10/11 04:37PM


I will take the Boise Team Total over 14.5 for a bill if it is still available.
jimmydafreak says:
08/10/11 06:45PM

There is no question that USC is a bigger and more important game for Georgia and Richt.  Ordinarily this would be a typical look ahead spot, but I think because it's the first game of the season, that won't be as big of a factor as it ordinarily would.

 

jimmydafreak says:
08/10/11 06:47PM

You get the same offer everyone else got.  If you want to limit your exposure to $100, then you can put $50 on each.  You'll have to friend and e-mail me to work out the details.

 

SatNightFever05 says:
08/10/11 06:51PM


Yea, no doubt UGA will be focused on Boise & South Carolina games..

Good thing Coastal Carolina week 3, otherwise MAJOR fade spot..

Boom_Boom says:
09/03/11 11:36PM
  Lets hear it boys......Whats the excuse?I need to hear it.

Lets go Boys.... Line up




Boom_Boom says:
09/03/11 11:38PM
Jimmy I need you in hear.... I respect you as a covers friend.. SO I WONT Bump all those ridiculous posts...


I will give you time to vent. But I need you in here.




I want you to say it....
KittyKatz286 says:
09/03/11 11:40PM
Anyone with half a brain knew Boise would win this game relatively easily. There was NO WAY Boise was gonna lose and this isn't hindsight, I said this throughout this thread (along with many others) for weeks.

It's rare we get a game this easy.
SatNightFever05 says:
09/03/11 11:52PM
yawn... Boise wins again..

shocking..


Boom_Boom says:
09/03/11 11:54PM
lets go boys..... get in here.

I will start bumping those ridiculous post
Penfold says:
09/03/11 11:57PM
Since when do teams with all 5 star athletes lose to teams with all 1 star athletes?  Hahahaha!
Boom_Boom says:
09/03/11 11:58PM
jimmydafreak says:
09/04/11 12:01AM

Congrats to Boise & Boise/Georgia OVER backers!!! Very well done guys.

Clearly my read on Georgia and Mark Richt was completely wrong. This is the same soft out-of-shape Georgia team we've become accustomed to.

Penfold says:
09/04/11 12:03AM
That sounds more like "Georgia lost the game" rather than "Boise won the game."
Boom_Boom says:
09/04/11 12:04AM
jimmy dont pass this shit off like it was Something Georgia Didnt do compared to what Boise DiD....  Boise Dominated there ass at eh line of scrimmage.


I think this conversation about Boise is now at a end.
Penfold says:
09/04/11 12:12AM
Be careful Boise supporters, if you support them too enthusiastically, then some of the Boise haters/SEC lovers might report your thread and get it tossed.

If nothing inappropriate is said and legitimate facts are being provided, why would a thread disappear?
Penfold says:
09/04/11 12:16AM


Here we go again.  Typical.

jimmydafreak says:
09/04/11 12:21AM

Boise did dominate in the trenches on both sides of the ball.  No question about that.  But I don't owe an explanation on Boise, because I've never done anything but compliment the Boise program.  My opinion of their program remains unchanged.

DavidGurney says:
09/04/11 12:23AM
Perhaps Georgia should get rid of their housing majors and replace them with smart kids.Boise has proven that it can be done.

 

If the NFL ever realizes that it's in their best interest to start drafting high school players and establish a minor league system,the SEC would be doomed.

jimmydafreak says:
09/04/11 12:29AM

With Oregon's very convincing loss, they will definitely be at least #4 next week.

 

marnypoly says:
09/04/11 12:37AM

Spot on
dcmc34f says:
09/04/11 12:39AM
Can't wait for Georgia to go 9-2 the rest of the season, to finish 9-3, and then this win would be even bigger than it is now. Boise St v. LSU for the National Title. I know, I know, no way Boise can beat LSU right. Let's just see about that.
dcmc34f says:
09/04/11 12:45AM
If Georgia was dogshit, then why they were ranked 19th?
dcmc34f says:
09/04/11 12:48AM
If you call 10 miles from your school a neutral site.
dugie243 says:
09/04/11 01:01AM

not 10 miles  its like 100 but i know what you were going for 








GL to all 
KittyKatz286 says:
09/04/11 02:23AM
Ehh...Georgia kinda stinks. They won't finish any better than 8-4 and by the time the season is over, this win won't look as good and Boise will get screwed out of the title game...as usual.
2112 says:
09/04/11 02:45AM
going 12-0 this year 
HUCKFAWAII says:
09/04/11 03:02AM


YOU DO KNOW THIS IS WEEK 1 RIGHT..
mattbrot says:
09/04/11 09:22AM

 

I believe that UTexas was ranked in the top 2 or 3 at some point last season.

fts1409 says:
09/04/11 09:59AM
Boise beat their butt. Jimmy....guess Boise got that "miracle" win eh ? Obviously your asessement  was quite flawed...and dogmatic..inspite of other convincing viewpoints,arguments.  Believe u were pounding the table on AUB too (remember heat + humidity ? ).  Thinking u should stick w/ALA.
Oilman58 says:
09/04/11 10:46AM
Ncy your a real jerk off
Skanless1 says:
09/04/11 11:42AM

true, they've actually beaten 2 of your hand=-picked 5 in recent years.

Dolphan says:
09/04/11 11:46AM
Wow, this is one of the dumbest, most ignorant posts I've seen in some time
Col_Mingis says:
09/04/11 11:55AM
I've been following covers for a few years now and this is the thread that finally sucks me in to register.  I live in Hawaii and have seen Boise St play live a few times. I don't understand how anyone can argue they are a great TEAM. They play disciplined, inspired football.  They win.  No one can say with any certainty how boise would fare in a full SEC schedule. 
Dolphan says:
09/04/11 11:57AM
Boom, your one of the few guys who's thread I always read here on covers and I agree 100% with your stance on Boise, but sometimes it seems like its just pointless to waste the time and energy arguing about this because some people are just too damn stubborn to understand that football is an organized team sport that involves much more than just brawn and "SEC" athletes. Boise will probably never get the respect they deserve but the people who understand how this football thing works can see right through this craziness!
Hawgs4itAll2011 says:
09/04/11 12:49PM
They are one of the best teams in the country, but if the played week in week out in the PAC 12, Big 12, Big 10, or the SEC they wouldnt go undefeated plain and simple.  They would still have a winning record and could win some of the conferences.  If they would have joined the PAC 12 and rolled thru it this year then they would have all the respect in the world.  They could have joined 3 conferences this year but they decided to join the Mountain West which is a weak conference.  I know that boise deserves way more than they get but they could have changed that.  Until they schedule a top team each non conference game they wont have it.  Tell the coach to schedule LSU, Alabama, Arkansas, and South Carolina in one season and if they come out undefeated no one will ever say another word. Until then the big boys dont want a team who plays 1 top 25 team a season to be the national champion.  You have to play the best more than once a year to get there. Quit complaining that you dont get no respect until the school changes the schedule.    
bunny651 says:
09/04/11 12:55PM
It's typical. When Boise beat a good team from a supposed more "respected" conference, it's always what the other team didn't play up to its level or they were overrated, Boise's own contribution to their victory is always kept to a minimum.
bunny651 says:
09/04/11 01:00PM

There's always two sides to a story. Most of the  so-called "big boys" don't want to have anything to do with Boise either. I can't blame them because their strategy is-- won't have Boise on their schelude and then use it against Boise, been working perfectly.

Paddy-Baboon says:
09/13/12 02:01PM
there is no doubt that they are a fast pace high scoring team the one and only thing they could do is to add a tougher schedual and not play fbs schools.
johnboy72 says:
09/19/12 11:36AM
iagee 100 percent with you i love the gamecocks lol fron ny my famly from myrtle beach
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