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Browns vs Bills MNF

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Posted Monday, November 17, 2008 11:22 AM   116 comments
I have finally realized no matter how much I look at game it really doesn't matter. The players don't have control of the outcome...the refs do...each week there are bad calls that go both ways...some effect the outcome and some don't but we are all just guessing and hoping to be on the opposite side of the bad calls.
 
I hope I got it right tonight...a winner is always nice.

My Pick:
 
Browns +5.5
 
Under 41.5
 

GL
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Macwestie1 says:
11/17/08 11:29AM
Well said & GL mah man Fpronk
drinkbeer187 says:
11/17/08 11:30AM
BOL FPronk
mikenice says:
11/17/08 12:03PM
kappindahoop says:
11/17/08 12:33PM
WOW SOMEONE FROM OHIO PICKING THE BROWNS??  BUFFALO WILL RUN ALL OVER THE BROWNS TONIGHT!
jopes says:
11/17/08 12:34PM

 

With you on this..

 

 

eugenia_trinh says:
11/17/08 12:41PM

Cleveland 22 vs Buffalo 17

GoodLuck BUFFALO

Fpronk says:
11/17/08 12:50PM

 

Another IDIOT! How many times do I have to explain that I bet to win money. I'm sorry you live in another country and don't have any professional sports teams but you don't have to hate!

Browns are 3-1 ATS on the road...and will cover in this low scoring game. Quinn brings a different element to this game and Lewis will put up 100 on the Bill. 5.5 is way too much for Buffalo to cover. Buffalo is struggling to put up points in the last 4 games and have only scored more than 17 once in their last 5. Get your facts straight before telling me why I make my pick.

I'd be surprised if Buffalo scores more than 13 here. Matter of fact, I'll go out on a limb and predict a SU win here for the Browns 23-13.

 

HotRoute says:
11/17/08 12:58PM
gl tonight
thatguy says:
11/17/08 12:58PM
This one is a really tough one. Browns seem like a good play but Quinn in that enviroment seems a little tough to me. oh and by the way fpronk, Buffalo WILL definitely score more than 13 against that shit shit 26th ranked defense tonight.
Fpronk says:
11/17/08 01:09PM
thatguy...I guess you know it all too....really Washington only managed 14...and your Buffalo Bills are having trouble scoring against far worse teams...you're betting that the Browns don't hold the lead in the last quarter again.

 

This team is like Jekyll and Hyde...and Jekyll will show up tonight. I think that's the normal one...lol

 

I also like the Browns off a 10 day layoff. Crennel hasn't lost a game after a bye week and I like these 10 days off to benefit the Browns.

donvito11 says:
11/17/08 01:16PM
 Im riding the browns to the bank!  Although im waiting to lay my action until joe public pushes the line to +6 .. I hope, if not ill take the 5.5
Fpronk says:
11/17/08 01:18PM

I would also like to mention that the Browns played PITTS, GIANTS, REDSKINS (on road), and JACKSONVILLE (on road) all tough defensively...Two things are for sure...Ill either be right or wrong...lol

GLA!

djvice says:
11/17/08 01:26PM
 hoping the line goes up to the brownies +6, and may even take the ML..under due to weather if i do play the total. 
davidhanson2020 says:
11/17/08 01:32PM
couldnt the all seeing eye just have override abilities when the refs make a bad call. the replays are seen about ten times on a blown call even before the ball is snapped again. if the refs blow a call the "upstairs" should be able to radio into the umps earpiece.. "open your eyes buddy reverse the call"
davidhanson2020 says:
11/17/08 01:37PM
how is buffalo gonna blow them out they .03 avg margin of victory. browns -2.4... cleveland has a better ATS record then buffalo.. i like the points 
WinsNow999 says:
11/17/08 01:43PM
Good Luck to both of us Fpronk

With you on both side & total!!!----Hope you nail them! all.

PieHole says:
11/17/08 01:43PM
Imo Browns keep this one close, maybe even win it.  Remember what they did to the Giants the last time they played on Monday night?  They really stepped it up and handed them their only loss, convincingly.  Add in the fact Buffalo has not impressed as of late.

 

Browns +5

 

I actually played this yesterday, should have waited as I see the line is going up.

 

GLA

Odogg says:
11/17/08 01:58PM
LOVE the Browns points and will sneak in a little on the ML. Like it over but weather is iffy.
amd says:
11/17/08 02:16PM
LBCWeasie says:
11/17/08 02:28PM
BOL Pronk, on the same side of both the game and total
Fpronk says:
11/17/08 02:29PM
I just checked the weather and looked at the Radar and look likes the majority of snow might miss Buffalo. I still think this game will be a grind it out kinda game and will be close to the posted total. If there is any snow or rain/snow mix this will only help the UNDER. You have to figure with Quinn starting his first road game on MNF the Browns and Romeo will want to eliminate any mistakes and will try to get this run game started. Look for Lewis to carry the load here...25 plus carries = Browns W.
gkastanza says:
11/17/08 02:33PM
GL tonight Fpronk 
dillon24 says:
11/17/08 02:34PM
stonehsp73 says:
11/17/08 02:38PM
good luck Fpronk
carlweezer says:
11/17/08 02:40PM

What Element is that?? An over-rated rookie who has played one game and is expected to thrive in a very very Hostile environment. That element?

I couldnt be more against you on this Frank,

Buffalo Wins. and this game will definitely go over 40 points. you siad it yourself 2 horrible Defence plus the Monday night Spotlight.

Sorry Frank, you were completely wrong last week and i think your completely wrong this week.

Good Luck to Me

Fpronk says:
11/17/08 02:50PM
How is going 1 - 1 last week on MNF completey wrong??

 

I was not completely wrong last week DONKEY...I took the OVER and if I recall I got that right...and if McDonald knew how to play man to man DEF I would have covered the spread...Don't act like you thought you had that wager locked up and make it look like a made a horrible call...lol Unreal, how people look at things after the fact.

 

Where did I say to horrible DEF's? Please don't make something up. Where did I say that?

 

NO GOOD LUCK TO YOU...I HOPE YOU LOSE! And my name isn't FRANK. Definately go over huh? This game will be in the Mid 30's.

Phuocalicious says:
11/17/08 02:57PM
carlweezer says:
11/17/08 02:59PM

Well you said Lewis will rush for over 100 yards easy?(Bufallo bad defence) and Cleveland is ranked 26th in defence? hmm?? I dont know about you but that sounds like alot of scoring to me!

where are you getting your Under pick from anyways? the snow that your HOPING will fall or the refs that your HOPING will make bad calls against the Bills?

either way i dont think I can go with your wishful gut feelings here..gotta go with the numbers. Both teams suck on defence! this game is an over.

p.s. the only thing i will apologize for is calling u Frank. other than that Monday Night Football Baby!

Fpronk says:
11/17/08 03:00PM
How is Quinn overrated he played one game? Another ignorant statement...apparently you more of a fan of the Bills rather than football....right now there are several NFL teams that would be more than happy to put Quinn on there team's roster.

 

The element is the fact that he can scramble when the pocket begins to collapse...there were at least two times last week that he made plays were DA would have been sacked. He also made a TD pass to Winslow that DA would have never thrown or probably wouldn't have seen.

 

He is very decisive, a leader, and has the respect of his teammates in the huddle. Is that enough?

 

 

 

carlweezer says:
11/17/08 03:03PM
dont forget turnover points!! and special teams!!! Parrish and Kribs can score in a flash!
Fpronk says:
11/17/08 03:08PM
Snow? Who said anything about Snow...stop telling why and how I am making my picks. STOP PUTTING WORDS INTO MY POSTS THAT AREN'T THERE....lol I don't believe I said EASY 100 yards!

 

 

 

 

carlweezer says:
11/17/08 03:08PM

 

I dont get it, are you arguing for me?? I think Quinn is over-rated because he has played 1 complete game!! and he has NEVER played an NFL road game! I agree he is better than DA but that isnt saying much. I think the ball will go to Lewis alot and Quinn will throw at least 1 pick. This equates for an OVER.

 

and i havent checked yet but I know Shaun Rogers hurt his arm the last game is he even playing?? huge loss for the Browns if he isnt.

carlweezer says:
11/17/08 03:11PM

you're hoping for snow and rain to affect the Under. you said it not me

carlweezer says:
11/17/08 03:20PM
ANYWAYS THE PLAY TONIGHT IS OVER!

 

IF YOU CAN TEASE IT TO THE HIGH 30'S AND LOSE A LITTLE JUICE THEN DO IT JUST RAISE YOUR UNITS BY 1 OR 2 MORE!

 

WINNERS BABY WINNERS

Fpronk says:
11/17/08 03:26PM
carl ::  I appreciate your stance and how strongly you want everyone to take your side but you really give no reasons for your play.

 

If the books thought this game would be high scoring wouldn't the O/U be between 47 and 51? Vegas doesn't give money away my friend.

Megamaniak says:
11/17/08 03:26PM
Based on your statement I would think you would be wagering on the OVER.

Bad Calls = More Pts. and Good Special Teams = More Pts.

This game total is way too low in my opinion, snow or no snow.

Good luck either way.

Fpronk says:
11/17/08 03:30PM

Again, I don't want to be rude...but you're a moron. I never said I was hoping for snow or rain...Jesus Christ kid..please read my post. I said any snow or snow/rain mix would only help my UNDER!!! This means it will only lock my UNDER a better play!

usikbasterd says:
11/17/08 03:39PM
what jackasses..LISTEN TO THE MAN  THE MAN HAS SPOKEN

 

calls games better than all you lames

 

hahaha CLEVELAND TO THE BANK

carlweezer says:
11/17/08 03:39PM

isnt that the same thing?

and I cant believe you think that the Browns and their 26th ranked defence and possibly without Shaun Rogers will hold the Bills and their crowd to just 13 points! ???? where did u get this fact?

Fpronk says:
11/17/08 03:50PM

No, it's clearly not the same thing.

Carl, you're showing your ignorance...it can't be fact yet because the game hasn't been played. That is my prediction and if you want to know I got a crystal ball in my box of Captian Crunch this morning...ok, that's how I know and I asked my Magic 8 ball if the Browns cover and it said yes. Then I flipped a coin and Heads (buffalo) Tails (cleveland) and it came up Tails...that is how I know.

carlweezer says:
11/17/08 03:52PM

To be honest I dont really care who comes along for the ride with me, thats why i said Good Luck to Me, but your right I havent given any reasoning to my play so here it is..

Buff Bills vs Cle Brown OVER 40

1. Josh Cribs maybe the best special teams player in the league he doesnt need much to run one back. Roscoe Parrish for the Bills isnt bad either.

2. Buffallo is playing hordendous defence lately. They dont have enough personel to hold Winslow, Edwards and Lewis down all game. In retrospect the Browns are ranked 26th overall in Defence! which means Evans and Lynch will have a big game.

3 Turnover factor- this will lead to scoring or at worst great field position for the other team.

4. Over is 7-1-1 the last 9 games Buffalo plays on turf.

and the main reason this game is at 40 over/under is because Vegas is basing this too muh on last years score which was 8-0 for Cleveland. Also the chance of rain and snow has lowered the total.

Throw that all down the drain because tonight there will be no DEFENCE!

carlweezer says:
11/17/08 03:55PM

Fpronk is that you? did you make 2 accounts? calls games better than anyone? wow u gotta be kidding me! i can name at least 15 handicappers that are better.

carlweezer says:
11/17/08 04:00PM

Fpronk lets end this right here right now, in front of whoever is reading can be the witness.

We can make a bet, no money involved.

You said that the Bills wont score 13 points. I will take that and say they do. so the line is Bills to score 12.5 points.

The loser erases their covers.com account. If I lose I will be a man of my word and erase the account and wont re-register in a different name. same goes for u ..

do we have a deal?

MelKiper says:
11/17/08 04:01PM
 bol
Fpronk says:
11/17/08 04:03PM

I can post trends too...Carl. And if you're going to use trends then my picks are definately better Carl.

And Carl, you don't know me nor have you been following my picks and no I don't have two accounts...I have many people who have followed me since September and have done well. I don't need to give myself props...maybe that's how you do things.

ATS

 

  • Browns are 5-1 ATS in their last 6 games after allowing more than 250 yards passing in their previous game.

  • Browns are 9-1 ATS in their last 10 games after allowing more than 30 points in their previous game.

  • Browns are 6-1-1 ATS in their last 8 games in Week 11.

  • Browns are 13-3 ATS vs. a team with a winning record.

  • Browns are 9-3 ATS in their last 12 games following a S.U. loss.

  • Browns are 9-3 ATS in their last 12 games following a ATS loss.

  • Browns are 17-7 ATS in their last 24 games overall.

  • Browns are 12-5 ATS in their last 17 vs. AFC.

  • Browns are 7-3 ATS in their last 10 road games.

  • Bills are 1-4 ATS in their last 5 games overall.

  • Bills are 1-4 ATS in their last 5 vs. AFC.

  • Bills are 0-4 ATS in their last 4 games in November.

    •  

    UNDERS

  • Under is 6-2 in Browns last 8 games following a S.U. loss.

  • Under is 11-4 in Browns last 15 games overall.

  • Under is 7-3 in Browns last 10 vs. AFC.

  • Under is 11-4 in Bills last 15 vs. a team with a losing record.

  • Under is 5-1-1 in Bills last 7 vs. AFC.

  • Under is 26-11-1 in Bills last 38 games following a ATS loss.

  • Under is 35-16-1 in Bills last 52 games following a S.U. loss.
    • carlweezer says:
    11/17/08 04:10PM
    do we have a deal Fpronk?

     

    no more numbers and predictions..lets do this

    Fpronk says:
    11/17/08 04:10PM
    I also said I would be surprised if Buffalo scores no more than 13 points...this does not imply they won't score 17...Why would I make a wager on this...you really show your immaturity by even suggesting such a stupid wager.
    Fpronk says:
    11/17/08 04:13PM
    How about we bet that I drink more than 3 beers and eat 10 buffalo wings while watching the game tonight?...or we can bet I can take my size 10 shoe and kick you in the ass.
    Fpronk says:
    11/17/08 04:15PM
    Carl, you remind me of a couple stalkers I once had..and he kept getting banned...and apparently you have a new account..makes me wonder if you're the same jack ass...I bet you I am right. I'll ask a MOD to check your IP address and verify it against the other stalker.
    Fpronk says:
    11/17/08 04:22PM
    I knew it...nice play Kurylyk99. Here comes your true colors. As you've noticed before the Browns cover spreads...I named them and you know them...you haven't read my posts...your just a ahole stalker who likes to stir the pot. Get a life kid...how many more times are you gonna get banned? I wonder how many email accounts you have to create before coming back to covers.

     

    I am backing my words...I am taking the Browns +5.5 and Under 41.5. What more do I need to do to back my words kid?

    roversport365 says:
    11/17/08 04:23PM
    Man I gotta go with the Bills in this one. I think they return to early season form in front of a home crowd for Monday night. This will be a statement game to show that they are serious AFC contenders.  The Browns havent found themselves yet and alot of bettors believe in them.  They may be right but I just dont see it. Late season in Orchard Parck is a bear to win snow or no snow.  That crowd is tremendous. The Bills are a talented offensive team, no one can dispute that.

     

    Teased the Bills -14.5 (+280)

     

    BOL

    RedDog54 says:
    11/17/08 04:25PM
    With you all the way Fpronk

     

    Browns get the

    DOTUANLINH says:
    11/17/08 04:28PM
     Cleveland 20 vs Buffalo 10 

    Fpronk says:
    11/17/08 04:28PM

    That's ridiculous!

    mixnuts says:
    11/17/08 04:30PM
    How childish... Question, If one is so good and earns a pay each week, why would one even bother posting picks or even care what people think? In fact WHY even share picks with folks on some thread, why, what's the bebefit, (maybe there is one and >I'm missing the point. If there is a benefit, will someone Please Explain. I earn a check wagering (Full Time) and I have No desire to post picks, (Anymore) Again, I ask> Why? So, folks here can bug you for plays, or to say wow how great you are, to me that's not a benefit, that's a hassle. As for, Public Trends, almost, worthless, but interesting. Anyway, best of luck to all tonight. P/S Under=Good, our "system" dose say play the Under, 2pts, less in streanth then lastnights game, same as Pit/SD Under. Side Bills should be only about a 5pt. FAV. Only about 2.6 better, add the 2.78 at Home. so,, I wouldn't bet the side right now, maybe a middle spot, b/c Bills should Win, not cover. Game Should Go UNDER. Again BOL and Stop Bashing! However, this site and all is so entertaining, lol...
    Fpronk says:
    11/17/08 04:32PM
    Carl...Good Bye!
    Fpronk says:
    11/17/08 04:35PM
    I wasn't making at threat. I was making a wager...kurylyk its all good. welcome back...I see you re-created your account on the 12th about the same day you were banned.
    carlweezer says:
    11/17/08 04:37PM
    yes im busted.

     

    anyways see you here after the game. Winners Baby Winners

    roversport365 says:
    11/17/08 04:39PM
    Didn't yesterday show you that no pick is ridiculous?  The fix could be in tonight, I just hope Im on the right side.
    mixnuts says:
    11/17/08 04:40PM
    total down to 39.5 When is Money Mayweather Fighting Again? Man, he Loves To Gamble on sports, need to get him (you) pronk in our groups, because I "Bet" he u have Big Big limmits. what a great Boxer he is, One of the Best Ever. Love to bet on him, even with the big odds, one has to lay. except when he fought Osca, opened up as a small dog, that's value Floyd as the Dog. That spread did go up then he was the Fav. with public on the Golden Boy, "Sharp Move" back to football, like betting boxing because then I take my own advice, as for the other sports rather have a computer system do it for me. LOL
    Fpronk says:
    11/17/08 04:56PM
    Yesterday showed me I lost ATS and WON the TOTAl and then I almost won ATS but actually lost ATS. Today, is today, and tomorrow is tomorrow...I don't dwell on what could of been...I need to pick my winners and move on...
    Fpronk says:
    11/17/08 05:07PM
    Hey, I wish everyone luck...no one likes to lose and we have all been on that side. But, tonight I am wish luck to all the Browns and UNDER backers!!
    usikbasterd says:
    11/17/08 05:07PM
    no CARL, i am not fpronk and you need to listen up, the browns aint come to play tonite, they came for biness take the browns, bet your mom on it


    and who would tease bills for -14.5
    how often do double digit favorites win anyway? last time i heard almost 1% of the time
    BigStimpin says:
    11/17/08 05:17PM
    I would hate to lay 5.5 with either of these teams. Gotta go with the points in a game like this and hope for the best. Go BROWNS...Quinn will never be a backup again. I like him.
    DOTUANLINH says:
    11/17/08 05:25PM
    Cleveland 20 vs Buffalo 10
    owl says:
    11/17/08 06:03PM
    frank i respect your opinion very much, but unfortunately i bet buff sat at 5.5 so i will stick i havent missed a bet since thurs maybe 1 and a push so  consider your self lucky i am overdue g/l no push here prob will take buff at 4.5-5
    owl says:
    11/17/08 06:16PM
    buff and over frank you just convinced me
    madrice1 says:
    11/17/08 06:17PM
    Fpronk says:
    11/17/08 06:22PM
    Love these newbie posters..Do you really I or anyone else cares who you take?
    tagsrock says:
    11/17/08 06:26PM
    i do pronk fa-fa-fa-fa-fade bait!
    Fpronk says:
    11/17/08 06:27PM
    Good point my tags...Good Luck tonight!
    tagsrock says:
    11/17/08 06:31PM
    You know what side im on tonight, the man dug me from a 6500 dollar whole in one fucking week. thanx again pronk your picks suck man
    tagsrock says:
    11/17/08 06:33PM
    forgot to mention with 2 and 300 dollar plays so you figure it out. and the best part its all free my friends all free.
    Wags51 says:
    11/17/08 06:36PM
    Fpronk, you are the man. Ive been reading your posts for a while now and just decided to give you props on Saturday's pix. Best of luck, i'll keep on reading your remarks and remember YOU THE MAN!!!
    Fpronk says:
    11/17/08 06:39PM
    Hey, I can't hit them all...but I do my best to try and win...I like the haters...I will continue to fade their wagers and ignore their comments. They only hate for a reason...
    SHAFT says:
    11/17/08 06:40PM
    pronk...brotha!!! no need to defend ur self man,, i respect the play.. to keep it real though, i like buff/and the over....others should respect ur play as well  ..i too, do this for money,,, nothin else..gl...
    Fpronk says:
    11/17/08 06:43PM
    Shaft...see, its guys like you on here I like..hopefully we can get together and talk about some other games this week. We all come here for one thing..to help each other win...I look forward to future games.
    SHAFT says:
    11/17/08 06:47PM
    you got it...
    Wags51 says:
    11/17/08 06:52PM
    Let me tell ya...i hit every game you said and went 9-9 with the book...did VERY well, once again thanks for the advice and keep it up
    smoke1399 says:
    11/17/08 07:02PM
    fpronk....nice blog going here. I respect your opinion and half agree with you. I went under 42 while that line was still out there, as long as the weather is as predicted (that seems like a gamble in itself haha) this game should be somewhat similar to the 8-0 game last year. not that low scoring....but low enough for a win. I gotta lean towards buffalo though. Last years loss to cleveland probably cost them a playoff spot and here's that chance at revenge, at home, as well as proving to everyone that they arent going to continue to fade like they did in their past 3 games. Edwards has been making mistakes lately and Quinn looked solid in his 1st start, but he's not going against Denvers defense, and i think quinn is the one who will make a few mistakes tonight.
    Booshasta says:
    11/17/08 07:03PM
    F-pronk How I see this game is Buffalo needs to get back on track. They been struggling and cleveland well thatcoach was about to loose his job couple weeks ago and i still think after this year he does loose his job. As I see this game with Trent and Lynch trying to make a huge statement here and saying that they are gonna make a run. This is a huge motivation game here for the bills. Weather might make it closer than im thinking but this game should turn ugly in the third. One thing that is good for cleveland is there running back Lewis he is a work horse. He will give it his all. I feel the o-line will get outworked and Jamal will be exhausted by the third Qt. This is a definately Buffalo play and I hope there is more cleveland backers so this spread goes down. But with my observation this spread will stay at 5 and o/u will stay around 40. Watch for the Bills coach to play up the middle football with plenty runs right at Cleveland and up the middle with the tight end. They will attack early and often in the soft middle. This will give them attempts for the big play down the sides. GL bro just my opinion
    heavygunner says:
    11/17/08 07:09PM
    i like the pick pronk ill let it ride bol
    SHAFT says:
    11/17/08 07:14PM
    this is a tough game to capp... but we all know that.. tease is the play here..I.MO..BUFF/OVER..GL FELLAS!!
    weedis says:
    11/17/08 07:21PM
    2 losers and thats not goiong to be refs fault baby
    neoJhim3 says:
    11/17/08 07:51PM
    I agree on the call last night at Pitt. That one we can call clearly a FIX. But I don't believe every single game is Fixed. Shame on the Refs or whoever is involved. It takes away the pride and the excitement of the game. It takes away everything... except of course the Money we made last night, whoever was on SD =D
    nguyenhd says:
    11/17/08 08:01PM
    Stalker

    roversport365 says:
    11/17/08 08:04PM
    Bills = Blowout city!!  Sorry Cleveland!

     

    BOL

    Fpronk says:
    11/17/08 08:20PM
    You're all right! Everyone in here is an expert handicapper who keeps paying the man each week. Some of you need to take spelling lessons before giving out capping advice though.

    Blow out? Good Luck!

    GL to Browns and UNDER backers!!

    da_poet says:
    11/17/08 09:27PM
    good analysis pronk......love the comment about the beers and wings..weezer, your an idiot.
    tagsrock says:
    11/17/08 09:29PM
    carlweezer says:
    11/17/08 11:21PM

    I'm waiting Fpronk!

    Under was not the play, however ur Browns may just cover the spread.

    pddy says:
    11/18/08 12:09AM
    Over over over monday monday monday
    nguyenhd says:
    11/18/08 12:15AM

    NIce Pick..

    kltrd007 says:
    11/18/08 12:17AM
    Nice hit on the Browns Fpronk
    Megamaniak says:
    11/18/08 12:19AM
    Bills season is OVER.
    Sirswingalot says:
    11/18/08 12:22AM
    Mon night over trend holds again...
    eugenia_trinh says:
    11/18/08 12:28AM

    My Cleveland

    Fpronk says:
    11/18/08 02:31AM
    Congrats to all the Browns and OVER backers! I had the UNDER but I made a late play on the ML that paid off....
    carlweezer says:
    11/18/08 02:38AM

     

    "Wide Right" helped you out eh,

    Fpronk says:
    11/18/08 02:38AM
    Cover was good....ML was better...thanks for taking the Bills Carl!
    Fpronk says:
    11/18/08 02:42AM
    This is for Carl...the Stalker.

    Straight wager / 467BF... 2008-11-17 19:38 $200.00 $540.00 $540.00 Win

    NFL/G- (Cleveland @ Buffalo) Cleveland Money Line +170 2008-11-17 20:45 Win

    Thanks for posting...your negativity made me a winner!

    Fpronk says:
    11/18/08 08:18AM
    No reason to lie Stupid A$$es....I was out at the bar and called it late...I say it because I am one happy son of b*tch...Why all the hate?? I said I was taking the Browns +5.5...jesus can't a guy be happy.
    Fpronk says:
    11/18/08 08:20AM

    Straight wager / 467BF... 2008-11-17 19:38 $200.00 $540.00 $540.00 Win

    NFL/G- (Cleveland @ Buffalo) Cleveland Money Line +170 2008-11-17 20:45 Win

    I don't care what anyone thinks!

    nguyenhd says:
    11/18/08 09:23AM
    Fpronk.... Those are losers who don't want to see other to win, misery loves company.

     

    Obviously, they dont know how to bet or read.

     

    Last week .8 K, this week 1.4 K. Thanks for the picks.

     

    tagsrock says:
    11/18/08 09:56AM
    pronk i dont understand why you even waste your time explaining yourself to these people. I never see you go in others threads telling them they are stupid and their plays suck. This shit has been going on for ever on this site some people are just asswholes and have no self respect and do nothing but talk shit. Anyone who wants others to lose money just to say haha   i told you so, says it all rite there. If i was you id just laugh at these ignorant losers what a joke. i hate haterzzzzzzzzz 5 dollar mother fkkkrrrssss.
    carlweezer says:
    11/18/08 12:46PM

    doesnt that make YOU a hater? and everybody knows if you dont love yourself nobody else will..

    Congrats to all the winners last night!

    kalind says:
    11/18/08 01:33PM

     

    what goes around pronk, comes right back doesnt it.  now you see what i mean?

    Fpronk says:
    11/18/08 01:46PM

    No, I don't see what you mean?? I don't even know you, nor do I want to know you. Buzz off kid.

    kalind says:
    11/18/08 02:03PM

     

    dont act likeyou dont remember fuck face.

    kalind says:
    11/18/08 02:11PM

    quotePosted: 11/11/2008 12:15:12 PM

    Hey I never said the guy wasn't an ahole but why stoop to his level...only makes you an ahole too. As long as following someone that's on everyone else...he's not telling to follow him..he's telling what he likes...if you want to follow that's your own choice.

     

    I follow myself and if I am wrong then I was wrong...I tell people why I am making my choice and if they want to do the same they can...Ive hit more than I have missed so I am doing fine...if others want to follow thats on them. I dont ask people to follow nor do I tell people what I am wagering...Sometimes I bet more on the over and less on the spread and vice versa..but thats on me..personal choice.

     

     

    remember these words in my thread?  same shit went on in mine that happened here.  now i iwill come to your defense just as i will anybody that has to go through this bs that 1 post wonders do daily.  you had your opinion that nite also and this is what i am tryin to clear up.  an ignore button would be needed from the ct to remedy the situation so you donthave to go through the bs from people you dont want to deal with and that includes me.  now i'm no kid and you obviously knew me well enough to come into my thread last monday nite.  i will buzz off and vanish into oblivion but remember that you are not exempt from any backlash from these nuts that enjoy watchin people lose.

    Rocko2231 says:
    11/18/08 03:49PM

    Won: 889.27$ Lost: 0$

    Bet $365 Won $889.27 (WIN) Placed: 2008-11-17 17:22:32
    BOSTON  -125 (WIN) Match Start: 2008-11-17 19:35:00
    CLEVELAND +5 (-110) (WIN) Match Start: 2008-11-17 20:35:00
    Wanted to parlay last night and knew i wanted Boston in NH: but wasn't sure about the other game till i read your thread. Thanks FPronk. Made alot of sense. Nice call on Cleveland
    Fpronk says:
    11/18/08 04:19PM
    Kalind...First of watch the language...I don't appreciate it.

    Anyway, thanks for reposting but I can't remember every post I make. I do remember that post, however, I have realized several of these guys are TOUTS. The create and recreate accounts only to bash people when they lose. So, everything is a ok with me now. I ignore all the negative posts and move on to making money.

    Fpronk says:
    11/18/08 04:22PM
    Rocko :: Next time you have a play like that let me know. I wouldn't mind putting a little down on a wager like that.
    samuelsosa says:
    11/18/08 05:25PM
    PRONK the thing is, even if you did hit the ML at the bar, you dont come to covers  and say you did, it isnt documented therefore its worth as much as me saying im having thanksgiving dinner with shaq and phil jackson. Even if i was, all im trying to do is showoff. Hence you trying to show off. theres other ways to enjoy a nice victory then coming to covers and saying you hit this this and that. I also went 10-0 so far today on COLLEGEBBALL but i called them all when i was on the Verrazano bridge. SORRY. you believe me though right? what a joke
    Rocko2231 says:
    11/19/08 05:16PM

    Dude..So much hate. Think you need therapy. Maybe Kalind can help

     

    Fpronk says:
    11/19/08 05:20PM
    [Quote: Originally Posted by samuelsosa]

    PRONK the thing is, even if you did hit the ML at the bar, you dont come to covers  and say you did, it isnt documented therefore its worth as much as me saying im having thanksgiving dinner with shaq and phil jackson. Even if i was, all im trying to do is showoff. Hence you trying to show off. theres other ways to enjoy a nice victory then coming to covers and saying you hit this this and that. I also went 10-0 so far today on COLLEGEBBALL but i called them all when i was on the Verrazano bridge. SORRY. you believe me though right? what a joke

    [/Quote

    I don't care what you say or what you think...I HIT THE ML ON MY HOME TEAM!!! YEAH BABY!!! TAKE IT TO THE BANK!!! I DONT CARE IF I POSTED IT OR NOT... I POSTED THE +5.5 AND PLAYED THAT TOO AND WON!! LOST THE UNDER BUT WHO CARES MY TEAM WON, I WON....YEAH BABY!!

    I LOVE THE HATERS!!

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