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Yawn! NJ gambling sweep picks up 42 arrests

By FreedomAtStake | View all Posts
Posted Wednesday, March 26, 2008 08:53 AM   7 comments
It's March Madness time, so it is time to hear the usual reports about gambling arrests.

Apparently, a recent gambling sweep in New Jersey has picked up 42 people, including a high school teacher.

For me, that is about the only interesting part of this story, because it raises a host of issue for the future.

Since the majority of Americans can agree that sooner or later there will be legalized online gambling in America, how will this activity reflect upon everyday Americans?

For instance, I don't give a crap whether some high school gym teacher plays poker - or even bets on sports - in his own free time at home online.

But how will the general public react to news such as this in the future?

I can really see a double-standard developing where certain people with certain jobs will be allowed to do what they want, but others in positions of "responsibility" will be expected to abstain from online gambling even after the pass-time is legalized.

But regardless of what is coming in the future, I have mixed feeling about this news story and the people involved.

One part of me has no sympathy for people who are so stupid to keep betting with a corner bookie when there is a simpler, better, and more convenient option located on the desk in their bedroom.

But, of course, another part of me understands that these people have been driven into the arms of organized crime because the American government is so blind to the effects of their draconian anti-gambling legislation.

Either way, the teacher should have known better.

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FreedomAtStake says:
03/26/08 08:57AM
Here's another version of the story.

Apparently, the arrests included a high school coach / athletic director, and, I'm not joking, a a

quadriplegic social worker.

Attaboy cops! Go get those criminals!

vanzack says:
03/26/08 12:48PM
You describe this high school teacher as a person who "bet with a corner bookie".

I think there is an important distinction here. This is a quote from the article:

Authorities described a multi-tiered gambling organization with Genovese crime family figures at the top and a network of operatives at the bottom taking bets and making a commission on the take, officials said.

Please correct me if I am wrong, but I have yet to hear of a person placing bets with a bookie to be arrested on gambling charges. It appears that these people were acting as agents or bookmakers - thus the charge of "promoting gambling".

I think there is a key distinction here and one that you should correct in your story. There are lots of folks who place bets - whether online or with a corner bookie - that would read your comments and think they are in some kind of danger of being arrested.

Its a very simple but important distinction between placing bets and taking bets. In this case, and all others I have heard of, the ones in trouble are the ones taking bets.

JGROMACK says:
03/26/08 03:18PM
Again I'm in your thread

 

 

I went to school with alot of these guys

 

The charges stem from promoting gambling, money laundering, racketeering, bribery, agg. assualt, and drugs to top it off. This started months ago and people being aressted now are more low level. Your talking about the under boss of the Lucchese fam.. This is real big shit. The Ny sweep was a couple months ago too, which includes players from Italy. Just in N.J. alone the ring was estimated at 2.2 billion.

 

 Growing up with these kids was a blast and it wasn't unusal for their fathers to be missing for a couple of months. I went to school with the underboss son (Perna), the family actually was on probation, so their pretty screwed. Getting pinched was part of the deal back then. The problem is after so many arrest and with their over the top spending it was bound to bite them in the ass.

 

This is the real deal, no doubt about it

Their are still hundred of agent in N.J., with no connection.

 

 

KingSerf says:
03/26/08 05:48PM
I find it continually asinine that this country expects and demands professional athletes, celebrities, and even hard working citizens to behave in some Sesame Street approved fashion once the work day has ended. Even if some of the alleged criminals, for example the high school teacher, had wagered frequently on-line, that would be viewed as immoral and unethical by many parents and "puritanical" people.

Both parents and so-called community leaders should spend more time polishing their own morals and ethics, and less time privately and publicly bashing what, at heart, is really a hobby to most. My worry, though I am "wagering" that both the American public and government officials will soon get smart, is that the negative stigma attached to Internet gambling will never go away. It's just fine for a person to spend $100 a month on scrapbooking, quilt making, reading, the latest DVDs, etc., etc., but not acceptable to spend $100 per month on a hobby that can potentially earn hundreds, if not thousands, of dollars.

The hypocrisy is nauseating, though not surprising. For example, I reside in Illinois, and recently the Illinois government banned smoking in any public place. One must stand 30 feet from any public building before lighting up. So now even casual smokers are made to look like the corner drug pusher. Still, the Illinois government has done nothing regarding fast food/junk food freaks. And I suppose that nothing ever will be done until first all fast/junk food carry a label that reads: "SURGEON GENERAL WARNING: Excessive intake of this food item may cause obesity and other health problems." Tobacco is just an easier evil to blame for the high cost of health care.

While Internet gambling is arguably only a tangible pursuit if the player is winning, how come the US government and citizenry have no problem with the hordes of lottery players, some who are very, very addicted. For a country in debt and economic turmoil to not legalize and then tax American-based on-line wagering is yet another idiotic, yet predictable, mistake.

FreedomAtStake says:
03/27/08 08:24AM
You are right.

I don't want t minimize the magnitude of the TARGETS of this sweep.

But I think we should also keep in perspective the the majority of these arrests will be people so low-level that it is silly.

From what I've seen in the past, these sweeps usually proceed as follows:
1) Make arrests, publicize it as much as possible, claiming that everyone involved is a major player.
2) A month or so later, quietly drop the charges against about half of the people, and even more quietly apologize for ruining their lives.
3) Six months later ammend the charges against the rest of them, in return for hopefully providing testimony against the mob.

Somehow, I suspect the gym teacher and social workers will not do any time.
FreedomAtStake says:
03/27/08 10:04AM
Diamondjake says:
03/31/08 10:17AM
Did the author even read the article? These were not players that were busted playing on line poker or making plays. True the government is very hypocritical in terms of allowing some forms of gaming and arresting these "criminals" for the same thing, however a distinction should be made as this article suggest these were players being targeted in sweep. Also I'm guessing that being a part of NY's largest crime family did not help their chances of being ignored.
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