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Ouch! 60 Minutes Hammers Online Poker

By FreedomAtStake | View all Posts
Posted Monday, December 01, 2008 08:48 AM   10 comments
All things considered, it was a very fair report. There is no other way to look at it.

Last night's 60 Minutes covered online poker's worst moment in full detail, from the popularity, to the insider cheating, to the lack of punishment.

It was cold hard truth.

And for many online gamblers, it really was a wake-up call. There are literally millions of online poker players - and their spouses - and I'm sure that this report shocked more than a few of them. And that is why this report was necessary.

For me, the scariest part is when the Kahnawake grand chief is asked why they didn't suspend the licenses of the companies involved, and he answers, "Well, they were afraid that if that was happened and the rug was pulled out from under them, so to speak, that the players wouldn't be paid."

Excuse me?

Exactly what kind of gaming commission are you if you can't even ensure that cheated players will be paid? Apparently, companies licensed in Kahnawake are not required to post bonds or deposits ensuring that they can pay all players.

That, in itself, is pretty scary. Protecting player deposits is assumed to be the first priority of any gaming commission. That does not appear to be so in Kahnawake.

Now, over the last decade 60 Minutes has covered online gambling fairly positively several times. For that reason, a lot of people in the industry were semi-hopeful that this report would discuss the scandal and then move on to something more positive, such as the need for regulation.

Well, anybody who watched the report definitely came away thinking that the online poker industry needs regulation, but I'd hardly call it a positive report.

But, again, this was needed.

The only way online poker will ever be trusted is if reports like these force the government or some other regulatory body to step in and ensure the games are fair.

And anybody who is pissed at 60 Minutes for the negative report should think about the report that could have been.

For one thing, lets remember that these cheating scandals were inside jobs. Now imagine if 60 Minutes started asking questions about the fairness and security surrounding the online casino games.

That could have gotten messy.

Now all of this being said, I do feel bad that the entire online poker industry got thrown under the bus due to the actions of a few bad apples who ultimately were all working for the same company.

There are a lot of good honest online gambling sites out there, and 60 Minutes chose not to mention this. But in their defense, how could they know which sites are honest?

Until there is a regulatory structure with teeth, we'll never know which games are fair and which are not.

Message to Barney Frank... The ball is in your court. Please. Clean up this mess.

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Lippsman says:
12/01/08 10:12AM
Well that's the whole thing.  It's not a real commission, it's just a few guys in an office counting all of the money they are making. They are making sure the dollars keep rolling in and to hell with the players.

 

I'm not sure what Canada can do about this, but it has to be something that can be done.

jlippens says:
12/01/08 02:41PM
Blame Canada?

Disclaimer: I am Canadian.

FreedomAtStake says:
12/02/08 08:51AM
Lippsman,

Canada doesn't have the guts to go after Kahnewake - besides, we've got our own economic and constitutional issues happening right now.

But there might be other solutions for Canada, which I'll be talking about today.

beachbuzzard says:
12/02/08 08:59AM
That's why my deposits have never exceeded a few hundred dollars. If I win more than that I pull the cash out right away. I trust them about as far as I can throw them (and that chief was a pretty big dude!!)

Oh, and I think it is clear that Canada has no jurisdiction over this tribe and what is going on there. Same issues here in the US with the American Indian casinos.

pokerprogy84 says:
12/02/08 12:43PM
beach- except here in the us if the indians were running a shady online opperation from foxwoods or somewhere, the govt would find a way around the law and get them
5starscotty says:
12/02/08 07:08PM
heres a great link that details the cheats , all people involved, timeline, and event of the absolute superuser account debacle

http://www.absolutedetectives.com/twiki/bin/view/Main/WhosWho

gameto11 says:
12/03/08 03:16PM
the real problem is that more U.S. voters are anti-gambling than they are pro-gambling (both dems and republicans) that there really is no motivation for politicians to support the legalization of it.. politicians will only support platforms that get them votes.

 

that being said.. legalizing and regulating gambling in the U.S. would be beneficial to the govt. by way of taxes + jobs. neo-cons will never go for it becaus eof morality issues but maybe the true conservatives will (aka libertarians) + possibly some democrats.

Fugger says:
12/09/08 11:37PM
yes guys without going into too much detail I would advise not to play poker online it is way to easy for people to cheat. I will leave it at that. if you are playing small blinds you are fine but larger blind level stay away
gameto11 says:
12/16/08 10:54AM
well.. i don't think lobbying or popular support would help out gambling.. if i ran against you for office and u supported online gambling then that would be the first attack ad i'd run against you. 

 

A lot of lobbying is for things that the general public doesn't really understand (pork barrell stuff attached to inconspicous bills etc..) but EVERYONE has an opinion on gambling and most of them would rather have a politician who is against it. 

 

the general public likes to gamble but a lot of those people only do it in casinos and not so many of the general public like to admit that they gamble or admit they voted for a politician who has supported gambling.

cyalx says:
12/17/08 07:51PM
THERE IS NOT ONE LEGIT NON CHEATING ONLINE POKER SITE OUT THERE AND THIS PROVED IT TTOO MANY GREEDY PEOPLE OUT THERE NOT TOO FIND A WAY 2 CHEAT ON THESE SITES ESPICALLY THERE EMPLOYEES  WHO MAKE JACK SHIT DOIN THIS JOB RIGGED  PLAY SMART PLAY REAL LIVE POKER WHERE U SEE THE CARDS BEING DEALT AND REAL PEOPLE SITTING ACROSS FROM U
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