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Legal online gambling in America... it's true!

By FreedomAtStake | View all Posts
Posted Friday, May 16, 2008 03:23 PM   5 comments
I'm a regular watcher of CNBC, and it is not just because of my crush on the Money Honey, Maria Bartiromo, but because I'm somebody who likes to follow business trends.

Anyway, for the last few months - and especially the last few weeks - I have been regularly perturbed as I watched CNBC's evening shows, starring Larry Kudlow and Jim Cramer.

What has been bothering me is their incessantly frequent references to the current market prices for Hilary Clinton and Barack Obama on Intrade.com.

I'm not sure why it gets me angry, but it does.

I think it is because these guys discuss the subject as if it is perfectly legal for Americans to bet these props, and yet for some reason, it isn't legal at all.

No, that's not what pisses me off.

Frankly, I've been trying to find a way to complain about this for a week now, but I just can't figure out exactly what it is about this situation that bothers me other than the fact that Americans should be allowed to bet on that stuff.

But after a couple of days of writing posts that were going nowhere (and how is this one any different, you ask?) and then deleting them, I ran into this article posted yesterday on MSNBC.com.

In it, Alan Boyle discusses another service, very similar to Intrade, that is actually operating in United States - at the University of Iowa, no less.

It is called the Iowa Electronic Markets (IEM) and it is "an on-line futures market where contract payoffs are based on real-world events such as political outcomes, companies' earnings per share (EPS), and stock price returns".

According to their website, "IEM is an experimental market operated for academic research and teaching purposes. The IEM is not regulated by, nor are its operators registered with, the Commodity Futures Trading Commission or any other regulatory authority."

And because it is an experimental research project, it is apparently not going to get shut down any time soon. Not only that, but "All interested participants world-wide can trade in our political markets." Yup, they are taking bets from the rest of the world.

But is it legal?

Again, according to their website, "IEM has received two no-action-letters from the Division of Trading and Markets of the Commodity Futures Trading Commission. Without explicitly asserting jurisdiction over the IEM or any of its submarkets, these letters, dated February 5, 1992, and June 18, 1993, extended no-action relief to the IEM’s Political and Economic Indicator Markets."

What that means is that they have received notification from the government that they are not going to be charged any time soon... and since it has been 15 years since those letters were written, I think those letters spoke the truth.

In case you were wondering, now is the time you should ask the question...

How is this not online gambling?

The MSNBC article does a little to explain the situation and why IEM has been allowed to operate outside the law for the last 15-20 years. But I don't really understand the explanation, nor do I understand the resulting situation that seems to allow the University of Iowa to have a monopoly on online gambling in America.

I can't believe I only found out about this today. How come nobody pointed this out to me before?

Anyway, I hereby urge all American wannabe online gamblers to immediately sign up for accounts at IEM - and tell all of you friends too.

I want you all to trumpet to the world that online gambling IS legal in America, and show them how.

Maybe it's not the kind of gambling you like, but I have a plan.

I want IEM to become so completely and wildly successful that all of the other universities in America start clamoring for their own research projects.

Hey - who knows? - maybe one of the other universities can land a research project studying how people interact with online casino games. Or maybe a study on how online sportsbooks can affect television ratings. That would be a good one.

Anyway, let's turn this thing into a public mess so stinky that there has to be a government response.

Personally, I don't have any problem with what is going on at IEM. My problem is that they are allowed to do something that would get any other American thrown in jail.

It ain't right. So let's change it.

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Logica1 says:
05/16/08 07:05PM
Love where you are going with this...I think it can work%!!!
RissyGold says:
05/16/08 08:48PM
Change "injury report" to prospectus and change "wager" to contract. That's IEM is getting away with it.

I still fail to see why Wall Street is looked upon as not gambling and on the up-and-up, but sportsbetting is the root of all evil. If a team/player would "throw" a game, who benefits?? Not the team/player, but one side of a third party transaction. When (not if) a CEO of a company directs a Comptroller to "throw" some figures on a spreadsheet in an unusual manner, a) the company beneifts in the short term by fraud and unethical business practices, b) the CEO is fired but is given a very gracious severance check in millions of dollars. And all the while, the company has also quickly and quietly drained/lost my equity (fake, unrealized, mythical cash) stake in the company - hence directly losing my wager in that company.

Give me Spygate over Enron (and the other) any day of the week!

sevan80 says:
05/17/08 10:16AM
They are an educational institution, and this exchange was started as as a research project by a few of the professors at the school. They conduct a number of studies based on the results of these prediction markets, which are apparently much more accurate than exit polls. They are exempt from regulation by the Federal Trade Commission because they have agreed to obey a number of conditions. These conditions include limiting all users accounts to under $500, and a number of other terms that prevent them from making any real money. This is not a business, but a research endeavor. If you search online, you can find all the details of why they are allowed to do this, and how they are prevented from actually making any money at it.
FreedomAtStake says:
05/17/08 11:10AM
Oh, a $500 limit. I guess it's not gambling then.
youngpys says:
05/22/08 01:20AM
Won't work. Same reason why alcohol and tobacco are legal and marijuana is not. Im not a weed head so this is not a bud should be legal rant. But the u.s. government is extremely powerful and if they deem that this shall be, it will be. Alcohol and tobacco kills millions of americans every year, but yet it is available to all americans with benjamins to purchase (taxation makes it legal, remember that). As far as i know, marijuana has never caused death, as a primary source at least. But you cant tax marijuana, because no would buy it. Why buy something u can grow ur self being that it was legal to do so. Government cant make money off of it. Can the government make money off online gambling??? I'm not sure, and who the f@#k is gonna report everything on their tax reports!!! See what im gettin at. Find a way to give the government a piece of the pie, and just maybe, maybe, it can happen. Look at poker, baby!!!
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