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Sports to be left out of Frank's Bill

By FreedomAtStake | View all Posts
Posted Tuesday, September 16, 2008 08:39 AM   5 comments
Barney Frank's latest attempt to stymie the UIGEA, H.R. 6870, is due to be debated today.

During this initial "marking up" phase, bills are debated and discussed in order to possibly re-write any language to be voted on at a later date.

One topic which apparently won't be discussed is whether "sports gambling" should be included in this bill.

Here is the initial text for the bill...

The Secretary of the Treasury and the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System, whether acting jointly or separately, may not propose, prescribe, or implement any regulation under subchapter IV of chapter 53 of title 31, United States Code, or otherwise give effect to such subchapter or any such regulation, including the proposed regulations published in the Federal Register on October 4, 2007, except to the extent as any such regulation pertains to wagering of the type that is prohibited (as of the date of the enactment of this Act) under chapter 178 of title 28, United States Code (relating to professional and amateur sports protection) or except as provided in section 3.

The key part is where it says, "except to the extent as any such regulation pertains to wagering of the type that is prohibited (as of the date of the enactment of this Act) under chapter 178 of title 28, United States Code (relating to professional and amateur sports protection)".

Since the ancient Wire Act has been used successfully a number of times to prosecute online gambling companies in America, this bill will not be attempting to change the staus of online sports gambling.

This is kinda interesting. I'm not sure if this is a good or bad idea.

First of all, it makes perfect sense. Why bother having a debate about sports gambling's legality when it is already considered illegal and many opponents have strong feeling against it? Especially when your primary concern is trying to find a way to legalize online poker.

But if this bill passes, it won't change a thing. In fact, if the goal of this bill is to take the burden off the financial industry from having be the police deciding which transactions are legal and which are not, well, this bill will only make the situation worse.

How is anybody going to figure out whether a transaction coming from an online gambling company was the result of poker, sports, horses, or casino? It would be a mess.

Now, you could say that this bill sets up the possibility of "poker only" online gambling sites to exist and serve the market.

Sure, but then what do you do about companies such as Sportingbet? They own Paradise Poker, as well as an online sportsbook and casino. How do you allow only the transactions coming from one part of Sportingbet, but not the other?

So, while I look forward to watching the ridiculous debate that will be taking place this afternoon, starting at 1 PM ET, I'm not sure if anything tangible will be accomplished.

That being said, the more often that we can get politician debating the unworkability of the UIGEA, the better.

So go for it, guys. Talk about it. Let America know exactly how stupid and unenforcable the UIGEA really is. Let America know exactly how much revenue is being lost through this ridiculous government policy of prohibition.


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Lippsman says:
09/16/08 09:04AM
There are many things we can say, but we are beating the same dead horse. Saying the same things over and over again.

 

Everyone, call your congressman, (Woman).  Let them know how you feel.

 

Maybe Freedom can post a link where you can find your local people you can contact.

 

 

 

FreedomAtStake says:
09/16/08 09:10AM
No problem...



july4433 says:
09/17/08 11:50AM
Sounds like about the best start that we can hope for. The journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step. We have to vote these Republican fun police out of office. Poker is an individual game of skill, no athletes are involved in point shaving ect... Poker is just about as victimless a crime, if you want to call it that, as possible an easier sell, the individual game of skill poker. Again, as good of a place as any to start. Obama says he enjoys a good game of poker. Republican fun police mind your own business and stay out of my business.
july4433 says:
09/17/08 11:59AM
I'll tell you what is not fun, watching thousands of dollars in a 401k and trading money get flushed down the toilet by the legal online stock casino Wallstreet and all of gambling, lies, cheating, stealing, ect... That goes on with the legal online casino Wallstreet.
3825 says:
09/19/08 08:17PM
This is what Rep. McDermott sent me when I asked for an update on the original bills. I've posted some other stuff in a blog in my covers space. I'm sure you know most of these details, but there could be some new stuff.

"Thank you for contacting me with your continued interest in HR 2046, HR 2607, and HR 5523. These bills are being discussed by my colleagues and their staff and are being analyzed by the Joint Committee on Taxation. New ideas such as these often take time for people to understand and the primary goal is to raise understanding and comfort in these proposals.

Again, thank you for contacting me. I look forward from hearing from you again in the future."

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