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The ugly truth about Canada and the Olympics

By J_Logan | View all Posts
Posted Monday, February 22, 2010 10:45 AM   57 comments
As a Canadian, it’s been very easy to get sucked into the Vancouver Winter Games the past week and a half.

Not since my university professors went on strike during the Salt Lake City games in 2002 have I watched so many winter sports.

Olympic fever isn’t just confined to my living room either. Everywhere you go, there are Canadian flags waving, red and white mittens on every corner and the bars are packed with drunken short track speed skating fans. And I’m in Ontario – five provinces removed from the games themselves.

Even at my local grocer, the talk from the produce section to the dairy cooler is about the 2010 games. A quick trip to pick up some sandwich essentials Sunday found me in the chatty cashier’s lane and, of course, the hot topic of the day was the Canada vs. USA men’s hockey game.

And, following Sunday’s 5-3 loss to the Americans, the talk about town – and the entire country – remains centered on the Canadian hockey team.

While the loss doesn’t eliminate Team Canada from the tournament (forcing them to play Germany in a play-in for a shot at Russia in the quarterfinals), you’d swear that Gretzky got traded all over again.

The long faces on the street, the stunned front-page headlines and the disappointed, long-winded cashiers at the grocery store, all can’t believe that our national sport (which is actually lacrosse by the way) is being stuffed down our boys’ throats by a nation that could care less about hockey and more about college football recruiting.

This reaction to Sunday's loss led me to the conclusion that, despite hosting the Olympic Games and currently sitting fourth in the medal count with nine (four gold), Vancouver 2010 will be a bust if the men’s hockey team fails to win gold on home soil.

Canadian athletes could be stomping the competition, much like the Americans, and still, if there was no gold in men’s hockey, the games would be considered a failure.

On the other hand, Canada could be without a single medal for the entire games and yet, if we managed to capture men’s hockey gold, in true Canadian fashion we’d state, “Well, at least we’re still the best at hockey”. And that would be more than enough for us.

Cheering for your country is great, and I’ll admit that I get goose bumps when Canada claims a medal in luge or snowboarding or speed skating. But I haven’t heard of at least 98 percent of our athletes and chances are most people have heard of less.

To me, it just feels like a touch of false patriotism. Like those guys who were New Orleans Saints fans all along but you never found out about it until after the Super Bowl. Except, instead of every February, we have to wait four years to jump on the bandwagon after ignoring anything but hockey since the last Olympics.

Hey did you hear we won silver in the ladies’ 1500 metre speed skating Sunday? No, but I bet you could tell me everything Canada did wrong against the Americans.

Go Canada Go!
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FrozenTundra says:
02/22/10 10:48AM

Nice write up!

Johnnypicks says:
02/22/10 10:48AM
HutchEmAll says:
02/22/10 10:56AM

all can’t believe that our national sport (which is actually lacrosse by the way) is being stuffed down our boys’ throats by a nation that could care less about hockey and more about college football recruiting.
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You've got to be kidding.  Now the US could care less about hockey? 

Canada's success was going to be measured by if they contended for the highest overall medal count and winning gold in some very key sports.  They just aren't getting it done at this point...so now the US doesn't care about hockey. 

And who was it again that owns all the Jr. championship titles?  That's right, the country who supposedly could care less about hockey. 

Ignorant is you. 

jesron1269 says:
02/22/10 11:04AM
Hutch being from Minnesota and I being from South Dakota can tell you first hand that hockey is a big sport in our area (even though I never played).  Americans care about hockey but I will admit not nearly as much as Canadians.  Soccer and hockey are the two biggest growing sports, in terms of increased participation, in our country.

That being said, I understand your point and wish you the best in the next round.  This game was more about the USA goalie than the Canadian team.  He played on hell of a game between the pipes and frankly you would focus on the fact that perhaps this is one of the most classic games of all time then the biggest tragedy.  As you said, it ain't over until is it over.  BOL!
trinibella says:
02/22/10 11:06AM

I think we have forgotten who and what the United States is all about.  Its quite simple, they want to be the best at everything...and I wouldn't be surprised if their perfecting their lacrosse skills right now.

Canadians need to relax and really take a look at what happend.  We were better then the Americans, but the score doesn't say so.  So what, the tourny isn't over.  Keep your heads up...Canada will rebound. 

J_Logan says:
02/22/10 11:07AM
Yeah, the US does have a solid hockey program starting from the junior and college ranks up to the Olympic team. They proved it last night.

But does anyone outside of the Great Lakes region really give two shits about hockey in the States?

Jon_Campbell says:
02/22/10 11:18AM
Hutch - Canada owns all the junior titles despite this past year so not sure what you mean there. But I've been to Minnesota and I can definitely attest to the love of hockey there. It is as hockey-mad as anywhere in Canada I've been.

J-lo - hockey is officially Canada's co-national sport with lacrosse. They corrected that error many years ago, thankfully.

As for last night - Miller played superbly and Brodeur made some dumb mistakes. I don't think that was the only difference in the game though and Canadians are kidding themselves if they think so.

USA was sooo much better in transition and broke out from their own end time and again with much more ease than Canada did. That's partly due to USA's superior speed and part urgency.

Canada had stretches where they were all over USA for a minute or two at a time, but it rarely seemed to roll over into the following shifts. Toews talked about that after the game too and the urgency factor.

The officials were bad last night. Inexcusable for this stage.

Fantastic hockey game in the end but I thought USA deserved to win it, not just because of goaltending.

HutchEmAll says:
02/22/10 01:12PM

It just pisses me off that this guy just assumes that the US could care less about hockey....just makes something up he knows nothing about just because he's steaming after the loss.  It gets old.

Last time I checked, basketball was invented in the US.  We don't generally tell Argentinans they don't care about basketball just because the US lost a game to them.

It's like Canada needs to constantly re-affirm to themselves that this is their game and they are the best at it.  It's like small man's syndrome. 

And this argument about Canada being better is such a joke.  They ARE more talented.  Did you check the betting lines before the tournament.  US was 8:1 to win gold....Canada more like 1:1.  That is why they play the games.  This, "well, we were better even though we didn't win" is such a pussy cop-out.  As a Viking fan, I could say the same thing about their game with NO.  But NO came up with a good game plan defensively and beat MN.  MN didn't win.  Maybe there were more talented....but they didn't win. 

jb927y says:
02/22/10 01:28PM
I don’t understand why people kept saying it was an upset that USA beat Canada last night. I was at the Canada vs. Switzerland game on Thursday. Canada didn’t exactly play a picture-perfect game there, either. They tied with a team who later tied with Norway. I was at that game, too. Norway played with more heart than the Canadian team. For some reason the Canadian team just doesn’t seem to be able to deliver. It has little to do with which country loves the sport more or who dominates at the Junior level. It doesn’t even have much to do with the pressure the Canadian team has on their shoulders. 4 years ago they were supposedly under much less pressure than this time but look what happened. Last night’s game was simple—Miller was rock solid and Brodeur, and several other high-profile Canadian players, didn’t measure up.

As for J_Logan’s comment about Canada not caring about other events and athletes, it may be true in Ontario and/or other provinces but that’s not the case here in Vancouver. People spontaneously gather around the big-screen TV’s and projections and sing the National Anthem with tears in our eyes whenever Canada wins Gold. Silver and Bronze were also celebrated in a similar fashion. People here are proud of the event we pulled together. Yes, I will admit that we all care more about men’s hockey than any other event. After all, men’s hockey (NHL) is the event that is brought to our living rooms several times a week for almost 6 months every year. What is so unnatural about having more expectations for men’s hockey than other sports?

Ringooooo says:
02/22/10 01:36PM
j logan is right, nobody cares about hockey unless you live in the cold states lol
QuebecNordiques says:
02/22/10 02:02PM

here in toronto most people want to cheer for the olympics, just cause toronto malpes are loosing and wanted to cheer for a winning team. yeah its sad these people are not hockey fans.

agreed , if we dont win the mens gold hockey ,the olympics will be considered a failure for canadians. 

and no i did not hear who won the womens 1500 gold speed skating, all i heard on the news was how luongo should have been in net.

thornton6 says:
02/22/10 02:28PM
First of all if you live in Canada hockey is the only thing we care about. Winning any other medal is not the same to us as winning gold in hockey. To not win gold is failure to us. We lost to the USA big deal every country gets up to play Canada why do you think that is. Would that happen to be we are the best at hockey i would say that has something to do with it!  When you play hockey in Canada as a child, ask any child what they dream about its winning Lord Stanley not a gold medal at the Olympics. For countries like Sweden and Russia, Czech Republic or even Finland the Olympics are everything to them. Canada expects gold nothing less but it aint that easy when you have every country wanting to beat you! Do you really think if the USA plays Canada again the USA will win HutchEmAll you really must be joking. Like i said one game and meant nothing but the seeding either way you have to beat Russia, Sweden or Slovakia to win gold.
Poundtown55 says:
02/22/10 02:33PM
I don't give two shit about hockey, but I watched the game last night and it was amazing. Our goalie played out of his mind and it was amusing to know that the USA beat Canada at its own sport. It's almost like when another country beats the U.S. in Basketball. These things are not supposed to happen. My main point is that I was very amused by a hockey game for the first time ever, and look forward to the rest of this tournament!

I'm not a soccer guy either, but when the World Cup comes around I will watch almost every game. There is something special about a tournament that is only held every four years.

MLBguru says:
02/22/10 02:34PM

Patriotism to begin with is whack.

Lets all argue about the places where we came out of the womb into this funny world.

Hockey is not Canada's game...its such a stupid slogan i hate seeing it on the tv all the time.

If you took an unknowing person and set them in toronto for a day and then in buffalo, they wouldn't even be able to tell the difference.

Canadian/American who gives a shit. 

guggs19 says:
02/22/10 02:41PM
mlb guru have u ever been to buffalo? no matter where and when I travel to the states its always good to see that canadian border. You can't tell me that buffalo is not 100x uglier than toronto. You can tell when your in america and when your in canada, its night and day.
guggs19 says:
02/22/10 02:41PM
go live in detroit or buffalo and then be thankful u didnt have to be raised in such a poverty based economy.
guggs19 says:
02/22/10 02:42PM
would you rather be in detroit or buffalo, rather than toronto? Be fortunate you werent born in the poverty-based economy and be thankful every time you see that red and white flag.
MLBguru says:
02/22/10 02:52PM

There are ghettos in the US and in Canada.

Maybe I should have said Keswick and Buffalo as oppose to Toronto.

Bottom line is we're practically brothers....there are small things that make the countries different but I never understand why the two are constantly down each others throats.

 

TheBallDontLie says:
02/22/10 02:54PM

 

Clarification: A Canadian invented basketball while in the US. But in any case go to any NHL game in Canada regardless if the team is doing good or bad and you'll see enthusiastic fans. Go to an American game (cue the Detroit Red Wings) when they are doing bad and people act like hockey doesnt exist.. ohhhh who cares about the Red Wings its just hockey I hear constantly when im at one of their games. College hockey on the other case there is a nice atmosphere, at UofM it is anyway. From my experience MOST Americans could care less about hockey not all. I have many American friends as well and its the same thing. Ohhh who cares its just hockey baseball is starting up soon  Hell I went to watch on NBC last night and they were featuring ice dancing over the game

Flutiemaniac341 says:
02/22/10 07:11PM

nobody cares about these individual sports much like nobody cares about the xgames results.

weve been told about this world champ and that world champ from Canada yet no one has ever heard of these ppl.

The Olympics are all about the Men's Hockey team here in Canada and to a lesser extent the curling teams to the west coast.

Flutiemaniac341 says:
02/22/10 07:16PM

Ever heard of substance over flash?!

Most of these NHL southbound franchises rely strictly on revenue sharing from the Canadian teams! The Maple Leafs and Habs keep the NHL afloat!

Flutiemaniac341 says:
02/23/10 12:10AM

last i checked this is the hockey forum.

were stating how the game doesnt mean shit in the usa and canada is about ONLY hockey! thanks for reaffirming my point.

im in hawaii right now and u know how many hockey rinks they have?

1, which is a new arena thats used primarily for figure skating.

HutchEmAll says:
02/22/10 03:24PM

The fact that 24 of the 30 NHL franchises are in the US tells you that hockey is plenty popular.

And they have made it work in NUMEROUS warm weather places.  Not all are doing great, but many are. 

Quebec failed....and moved to.....Colorado. 

I live in MN and hockey is plenty important here.  Maybe your average Joe on the street in Tampa Bay won't care much about hockey, but the US supports 24 franchises in the NHL. I'm guessing SOME people must care about it.

 

thornton6 says:
02/22/10 05:13PM
There might be 24 teams from the USA but Canada carries the NHL. How many teams out of 24 in the USA are in trouble lets begin with Atlanta, Tampa, Florida not to mention those Coyotes who should be in Hamilton by now the list goes on and on. So sorry we have 6 teams and all making money why because we sell out every game in Canada. If that jackass Betttman would allow teams that are in trouble move back to Canada which he seems intent on fighting everytime someone wants to bring a team here why is that because he doesn't want to admit that he was wrong putting teams in the southern states where hockey is second to everything. Sorry there are great markets in the USA no doubt Minni and South Dakota hot hockey beds yes but the southern states not working out are they. I say maybe atleast 6 teams alone now can move to Canada and have no problem making money and selling out. Hamilton for sure another team in Toronto, Quebec City, Winnipeg that's four cities who love hockey yet can't get a team from Bettman even though teams are losing huge money in the states.
thornton6 says:
02/22/10 05:22PM

True but what's wrong with a team in Saskatchewan to they deserve one do they not!

thornton6 says:
02/22/10 05:28PM
True but i don't understand if you want to play in the NHL why does it matter where it is it would be an honour no matter where you played i would think!
Spitfire15 says:
02/22/10 03:10PM


Agreed.  I'd like to be patriotic but what exactly am I supporting - the government The wonderful families that torture a mentally retarted girl until she dies?  Our upcoming generation that only know how to worry about their image, tweet, and post on facebook?

Older Americans still have a lot to be proud of, but young people like me are going to run the country in to the ground I swear -I'm getting completely off track with this but: why exactly do we try to get as many people as possible to vote and push uneducated people who can't even name both candidates let alone what they support into the voting booths every 4 years?  I appreciate how good my life is because I was born in America and the rights that come with it, but other than that I'm not sure what I'm supposed to be proud of.
banans says:
02/22/10 10:25PM

Honestly, I think the league would be healthier with half the teams (ok, maybe not have but 1/3rd). There are way too many teams that are losing money that bring down the profitability as a whole. Also, the talent pool gets slim with 30+ teams. If Vesa Toskula can be a goalie in this league, something is wrong. I think that person was exagerating with the 2 teams keeping the league afloat. Yes, the NHL needs the US but it dosen't need Phoenix, Tampa, and Atlanta to survive. Not sure what this has to do with baseball and basketball. No one would argue that those are big sports in Canada (although Toronto still has profitable franchises in both and the Raptors always draw a big crowd)

banans says:
02/22/10 09:58PM

Hutch, I completely disagree with your post. Most Americans could give 2 shits about hockey. The game last night wasn't even on NBC; they were showing ice dancing instead. You are from Minnesota, where pro and college hockey is popular. When you go to other parts of the country, there are a handful of hardcore fan but the VAST majority has no clue.

Yes, there are 24 NHL teams in the US but many, many are struggling (Tampa, Phoenix, Atlanta etc.) Those that are alive are being propped up by the Canadian teams in revenue sharing.  Many cities that are getting 15,000 attendance are having to give a free bottle of vodka with every ticket. Quebec and Winnipeg moved south because Gary Bettman loves to suck massive cock. There simply isn't enough corporate boxes in those cities to sell. It had absolutely nothing to do with fan support.

The fact that you cannot watch an NHL game unless you have some channel called versus says alot. How come ESPN didn't want to pay 1 red cent for NHL rights? or anyone of the major networks? NBC shows games, but they pay the NHL $0 for those rights. The ratings are a disaster.

There are certainly alot of strong hockey markets in the US, mainly in the Northeast, and some hardcore fans but you can't say it's even a top 6 league (NFL, MLB, NBA, NASCAR, NCAA, MLS/NHL?)

Whenever I travel to the US, I have to get my hockey news from the web. Fox sports/ESPN shows me nothing. They are giving the people what they want.

icemantbi says:
02/22/10 03:09PM
Most Americans don't give a shit about hockey, because the VAST majority live in areas that don't get any snow or ice.  The only Americans that care are those that live in the northern states, below the Mason/Dixon line, no one cares.  And I don't blame them, how can you care about a sport you have never played before?  Imagine growing up in Florida, where most people have never seen snow in their lives, how do you expect them to relate to a game played on ice?  They can't, and as a result, you see an empty rinks for Panthers/Lightning games.
icemantbi says:
02/22/10 03:03PM

Very good post J_Logan.

To be honest, I was sick of these Olympics even before they started.  If I have to watch another one of those coke "he shoots, he scores" ads, I'm gonna have to kill someone.  For the last year, all it's been here is Vancouver this, Vancouver that.  Big fucken deal.  All the Olympics are is a showcase of sports most people don't give a shit about.  Does anyone watch downhill skiing, apart from the Olympics?  No.  Does anyone give a shit about speed skating?  No. Same goes with most events, like luge, bobsleigh, snowboarding (apart from Shaun White, everyone knows him mostly because of endorsements).  The only sports people give a shit about is hockey, for the guys, and figure skating, for the gals.  No one gives a shit about any other sports there.  And the sad fucken thing is, most of these athletes, like the skiiers, sledders, speedskaters, etc.. struggle because they have to juggle training in their respective sport AND get a job to support it because there is no way these guys can make a living at their respective sport cuz no one gives a shit, yet we are crying over a bunch of MILLIONAIRES who are set for life with their mansions, ferraris, etc.. that they earned for playing a game. 

bluesplayer says:
02/22/10 09:39PM
I can safely say i adore our Northern neighbors.I have been a us resident and citizen my whole life,im a EURO MUTT,Polish+Lithuanian+Slovenian and proud of it.I Visited Toronto once...and that's all it took to change my opinion of Canada.Although i have never had bad view Canada as a whole,but if i did, it would have changed as soon as i got out of the cab at my destination.As a Musican i was taught to be a good observer,and what i observed when i got there and looked around was magical.....

I watched a small Asian girl get off the school bus, and the look she had on her face told me all i need to know about Canada.She was glowing with joy running twords her mom as if she was in heaven.That moment for her made realize this place was similar to home,very similar.Furthermore,i also had realized that i have been spoon fed propaganda since i was born.My parents were beside themselves when i told them about my trip i was going on,scared of another country in a sad way.I was taken back at their lack of confidence with my travel.It was at that point that i realized that something was fundamentally wrong with their state of mind.My parents ...god love them,are typical right wing Americans.I love them of course but every once in a while i have to question the approach they have.They thought going to a special hernia clinic out of the US would spell disaster,but funny enough,in the US a hernia costs 16,000 dollars to fix.Canada does the procedure at 5,500....with even more of a staff.The Shouldice hospital is the #1 hernia clinic in the WORLD.Make no mistake about it,it is.But tell that to any American and they laugh you out of the room,without even thinking,just on gut instinct.That tells me people are brainwashed to think they are the best of the best,and everything around them is the best of the best.Just isnt true...

We all need to think for ourselves but very few do.Most people grow up never questioning anything,believing their misled parents and neighbors only to be taken advantage of,all the while not knowing it.As an artist i am cynical and very leary of just about everything in our world.I trust no goverment , sales pitch or media.Witch gives me a clear view of things i encounter.No one tells me what to think,i see things and evaluate for myself,then move forward.

I did just that when i decided to travel to Canada,and what i felt and saw was a very happy place.I can tell you first hand that there are more unhappy people in the US than happy one's.You cant Bullshit that....im sorry.How many more depression drugs are they going to produce before people start thinking that ,something might be just alittle off....

If i was forced to live in any other country,it would be Canada.A very happy and devoid of bullshit place...  and the anthem moves me as well.Because of my trip to Toronto,now,whenever i hear the anthem i somehow feel connected to it,sounds strange,but its true.
MLBguru says:
02/22/10 03:12PM

Don't go using one person's statement as the foundation for your argument.

There are people on both sides who make ridiculous claims and point fingers.

MLBguru says:
02/22/10 03:15PM

Those are my exact sentiments.  Happy to live here...but beyond that I don't know where all the love comes from.

I owe my family 100X more than my country....who FYI most people complain about on a daily basis from the government, to their own citizens.

Gee_Gee says:
02/22/10 05:32PM

Doubleday?  His name was James Naismith.  I could care less how much of his life he spent where, just thought if you had to post this before that you would know his name

cantex48 says:
02/22/10 06:20PM
YES I did notice,our chick skater,got a medal...believe me after seein complete failure in skiing,and other events...Gawd-Bless the canadian chicks!!!!as for hockey...well,GL to dem guys!!!! buncha overpaid sub-athletes...at least our other guys and chicks who do well...as opposed to the hockey dudes,don't cash Big cheques....and of course let us down,I will bet on russia,if canucks squeak by germany...maybe by a shootout!
cantex48 says:
02/22/10 06:28PM
FWIW in Turin,I think we got 24 medals,v USA 25////but of course on our soil we soil the bed....REALLY Glad we r tied w/Korea!!!!! gee,that's sumthin....hopefully we beat korea...cuz no mo skating(OOPs there's the re-lay...just give the koreans the medal!!!!!,but am sure we get that back w/curling OMG!!!!)
TheBud says:
02/22/10 06:46PM


Yeah till you go on your first road trip to FLA.. Playing in Sask/Edmonton/Winnipeg/Hamilton/Quebec City would be compared to the butthole of NHL Citires...  where as Tampa Bay, San Jose, Anaheim would be the titties and box... 

My ex girlfriend was an airport screening guard.... many players in the NHL grew up here (Saskatoon), have lake homes and family here.  She could always tell who played in the NHL... they were the biggest c***'s on the planet and were generally snivling little bitches. Their wives were almost always make a huge stink at the airport.... Wade Belak's wife threw a temper tantrum when their limo wasn't waiting curbside to pick them up.. In turn he had a giant freakout on the limo driver once he arrived.... we're talkin WADE BELAK....You think these players would live here? cripes I think they actually loathe coming home to visit even...
 
My comments go full circle in regards to team Canada... pretty tough gettin guys who average 5.2 Million a year salary to come together as a team, if they lose yea sure they'll feel they let down their counrty... then the next paycheque comes in and they say to themselves "fuckit... im Chris Pronger... I'll never live in Canada again...who gives a shit, im rich biaaaatch, nice titties reporter"
TheBud says:
02/22/10 05:25PM


Awh dude no way.... absolutely no way we could support a team.  Sure we'd get least 10,000 fans a night... but who in their right mind would want to play here??.... They can't even get anyone to play in Edmonton.  
TheBud says:
02/22/10 05:18PM


That would be the demise of Bettman and his ultimate failure...  he refers to these teams as "too small to fail"
jesron1269 says:
02/22/10 05:43PM


I was just going to come in and correct that... I must have baseball on my mind as Doubleday is the inventor of baseball and Dr. James Naismith is the inventor of basketball.
jesron1269 says:
02/22/10 04:58PM

Doubleday was merely BORN IN CANADA.  He moved to the United States, became a US CITIZEN and invented his new sport in a YMCA.  It is sad if you are trying to claim some ownership or that we have to defense this because who really cares but this is the second time now I have had to post this on this message board.

Bottom line (going back to the point) is that American do care about hockey, maybe not as much as Canadians but they do care.  Especially in the midwest where Hutch and I are from.  Plus as Hutch pointed out the vast majority of the NHL franchies are in the US so that has to say something.

jesron1269 says:
02/22/10 10:14PM

As a whole the league is in bad shape but you are looking through rose tinted glasses if you honestly believe that two franchises are keeping the whole league a float.  Be real about the circumstances and answer me this... if half of the US franchises folded up would there be an NHL?  I think not!  Despite in your own world what you may believe Canada and the NHL need the US market more than the other way around because without it there wouldn't be much of a league in just Canada alone.  By the way how did the baseball and basketball franchises work in Canada?

jesron1269 says:
02/22/10 10:42PM

I would agree with you that in this case eliminating a couple franchises would be best for the NHL.  My point about baseball and basketball was basically just a counterpoint to his whole two franchises in Canada keeping the NHL a float.  Which isn't true but even if it was... how much revenue sharing has kept the Raptors, Griz, Expos and Blue Jays a float over the years?

jesron1269 says:
02/22/10 06:23PM


You really are not that bright if you cannot see the difference between  my post and your post.  If you cannot see it then it really isn't worth discussing with you.  Good day!
K4ngur13 says:
02/22/10 03:06PM
Great article, few things I disagree with, but overall nice job
mightiestmojo says:
02/22/10 08:02PM
NBC wants ratings and hockey doesn't give ratings because only a few American guys care about it. 99% of women and some guys like other sports, ever heard of Tanith Belbin, so NBC is being smart and their disregard of the game, though they did run it straight on their other network, is a good indicator that: American's don't care about it. I understand where you are coming from. Good article.

I actually feel bad for Canada and hope they win 4 straight games and the gold in this, it's apparently very important to them.

Skubishack says:
02/22/10 10:50PM

Hockey has a loyal following in the USA but is only followed by those fans. The press and networks don't give a crap about hockey because it is not a money maker here in the USA when compared to even Poker on TV. Sad but true.

I am only the 2nd person in my family born in the USA but seriously believe that if I had been born in Canada I would have been a much happier person due to my love of the game. Heck, I'll go as far as to say I'd of made a living off of hockey one way or the other. There is just no interest in the USA outside of the loyal fans.

TheBallDontLie says:
02/22/10 02:57PM

But I mean, its like Americans saying Canadians dont care about football and I consider myself even a bigger football fan than hockey. So it works both ways but like I said MOST not ALL.

TheBallDontLie says:
02/22/10 05:59PM
Steve Yzerman became a US citizen and based on your comment you consider him an American as well? Naismith grew up in Canada, went to University in Canada, is in about 5 hall of fames in Canada.  You're acting like he popped out of the womb and said fuck this im moving to the States. The reason he moved there is to pursue a job. I know over a dozen people that have moved to the States, recieved citizenship and they consider themself Canadian. Anyway, back on topic now...
TheBallDontLie says:
02/22/10 06:05PM
Theres more teams in the States? Its all business, how many Canadian cities can support an NHL team? Furthermore with a douche like Bettman running the show there will be no chance to expand in Canada.  Its not all about support, I suppose you havent seen the Coyote fan support
WickedD says:
02/22/10 06:10PM
good post 
markmarks says:
02/22/10 08:15PM
You know…in Ice Hockey it always comes down to the team with the best goalie, I mean stop the ball going in…and…well you know they don’t score do they? But I never really understood how dangerous Ice Hockey can be; I mean it’s not like shark fishing with your feet dangling off the pier is it? But apparently the blades these professionals use are so sharp, and that combined with the players close proximity to one and other make ice hockey a risky business. I got some ideas here… <a href="http://ketiva.com/Sports/did_canada_invent_ice_hockey.html">http://ketiva.com/Sports/did_canada_invent_ice_hockey.html</a>
ZarleyZalapski says:
02/23/10 08:22AM
I live down in South Carolina and love hockey.. that being said.. I think I'm in the vast minority. Good win by the US but I wouldn't count Canada out just yet.
Flash_Man says:
02/23/10 01:38PM
We love our hockey here in Colorado. The bars were packed for Sunday night's game and the excitement level seemed to reach a level near the SB. Everyone I knew was looking forward to the game, and what a game it was. I know Colorado is in the minority but popularity for the sport IS GROWING in the US.
scevrog123 says:
02/23/10 11:20PM
Yes, the U.S. scored more goals than Canada, but.....

This is a sports gambling webiste, and, presumably most people involved in sprts gambling can differentitate between a "true win" and a "lucky win". Canada outshot the U.S. about 2:1. I figure a good 9 times out of 10 that team will win the game. The U.S. got lucky. This is why Canada are still more favoured more than the Americans to win the gold.

Is there anyone here that would back the U.S. on even money againt Canada? Come

on....

scevrog123 says:
02/25/10 07:31PM
Of course there was luck involved. There is some luck involved in any sporting event. Canada dominated every aspect of the game, except, goaltending. That's it. What's the likliehood of another goaltending performance like that? Probably not too high. Maybe around 10-15%. What's the likelihood of Canada dominating the U.S. again (in terms of shot on goals, scoring chances, etc.), given how these team teams have played so far, probably above 50%.

There is a probability distrubtion for every kind of event, including sporting events. That is why there are money lines. If the better team always won the game, the money line would be infinity to 1.

I beleive the money line of that game somewhere around 2.5 to 1. That means around 30% of the time the U.S. will win that game. Not because there are necessarily a better team, but, because they got lucky.

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