darien123 says:
You are correct most of the horses he has faced can even break a 100 beyer, a real sad bunch. These pathetic horses make him look like the superman of horses wich is furthest from the truth.

 

A few of the horses you have mentioned would beat him and some of the others would give him a run for his money. The horse racing industry doesn't care and will not mention this. They want a triple crown winner so bad to prop up this dying sport. I hope some horse can muster the race of his life and beat this overated horse at the Belmont.

LooseOnTheLead says:
Hey L'ville Lion..if  you are laughing at BB"s beyer you must not have watched the race and are simply looking at fig's. His connections knew he ran the fastest derby ever, by the real speed figure makers not Beyer, and he also knew he was 20 lenghts better than most of the field and he has the Belmont on deck....so what did you want him to do? go out and destroy the field by 20+lenghts running his eyeballs out? BB earned a respectable figure w/out even trying...i mean he didnt turn a hair the entire race and was being geared down the last 1/8...the fact he got the figure he did adds to his greatness not diminish it. i hope everyone caps the race the way you do, but i doubt it.

LouisvilleLion says:
He ran against a weak field. The "awesome" performance you saw was not his doing so much as the weakness of the opponents. Hawaii football was undefeated up until the Sugar Bowl. Yet it seemded clear to most they were going to loose to Georgia. My point is that the Preakness field and to some extent the Derby field was WAC caliber. If Big Brown was beating SEC caliber fields, i'd be on the bandwagon with you guys. Horses like Alydar, Sham, now they were SEC caliber to say the least.  Go ahead follow the horses from the Derby and Preakness in the future, they will not amount to much more.

 

Trying to give him credit for winning from the 20 post-i'm not buying it, there is only a minor difference in distance to the first turn between 1st post and 20th post. Why do you think they choose the 20th post over several other slots. The 20th post has is drawbacks, but the benefit is clear-with tactical speed you will avoid traffic problems. That is not true with other posts.

 

The great thing about this debate, is that there is a decent chance it will be settled in a few weeks.

LouisvilleLion says:

 

Alydar and Sham would beat Big Brown easily. That's what i would consier. Casino Drive is an very much an open book at this point. Yea I don't see the Belmont shaping up much better than the past two legs, but people have gotten carried away with Big Brown and if Casino Drive is a solid horse, and by a solid horse meaning a level that Big Brown has yet to see, then yes i see Casino Drive with a great chance of beating Big Brown.

Maybe i set the sights to high with Alydar and Sham. Certainly you would be willing to acknowledge a number of other leagues in between the SEC and WAC. Take last year for example. Street Sense, Curlin, Rags to Riches, Tiago, Hard Spun all much better than than this year's 2nd best three year old. And in the Triple Crown legs they beat up on each other. Another way to put it, Sunday Silence and Easy Goer were two of the greatest horses of off all time(both better than Big Brown),it was impossible for them to win the Triple Crown of course. 

BigJamie says:
They can talk about his beyer all day long,doesnt mean a thing.His beyer can be 80,who cares,hes going to win the triple crown no matter what his beyer is.People put so much emphasis on beyer rating,its a number that the daily racing form uses to help people handicap a race.Most of the time the horse with the best prior beyer rating doesnt even win.

All of this only goes to prove, that you can't and don't always win races with paper and

pencil. There are other factors involved with 'picking winners' and those that play strictly by the

numbers are doomed to everlasting frustration.