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Is Boxing Almost Down for the Count?

By Michaelperry | View all Posts
Posted Tuesday, August 11, 2009 10:43 AM   15 comments
I understand why MMA has passed boxing in terms of popularity.

There are more ways to win a match, plus you can still knock out your opponent with one punch, just like with boxing.

When I visited Las Vegas in July last year, I saw firsthand that MMA has not only passed boxing, but its lapped it a few times.

I was tempted to go to UFC 86 (Rampage Jackson vs. Forrest Griffin), but when I saw it was going to be $500 just to get in, I balked.

Then I saw on the same night as UFC, that there was going to be a boxing match between Ricardo Torres and Kendall Holt to decide the WBO light welterweight title.

I could get fifth-row tickets for $150 each. Sign me up. While I have never been to a MMA event, I hadn’t been to a boxing match, either.

While 11,000 people were going bonkers at Mandalay Bay before the start of the UFC event, Planet Hollywood was listless, as there may have been 4,000 people at the boxing event.

In between fights, Paris Hilton shockingly made a cameo, something that Showtime obviously paid big bucks for. The crowd was amused actually.

Earlier in the day, I went to Imperial Palace and made a bet on the "Total Rounds" the fight would go. I bet over 9.5, figuring I would either see a few knockdowns or win some money. After seeing the 2/1 underdog Torres knock down Holt twice in the first 30 seconds, and then Holt knockout Torres 30 seconds later, I had never been so happy to lose a bet before.

After the final knockout to decide the fight, I was jumping up and down like an 11-year-old girl at a Jonas Brothers concert.

There is still a prominent spot on the sports map for boxing.

One reason I think that boxing will always be somewhat popular, is you can't dilly-dally and bear hug someone for two minutes straight, like you can in MMA.  

I think the emergence of MMA is great, but there is no reason for so many people to turn their back on boxing.

Yes, there are neurological concerns for boxers, but that’s what doctors are for. The problem more times than naught is that there are too many boxers who don't know when to throw in the towel on their career.

After witnessing the boxing match like I did live, I realize that I am not ready to throw the towel on boxing.

Please let me know what you think about the state of boxing today.
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dajizzman23 says:
08/11/09 01:17PM
the comparison u made is ridic. Ur comparing Rampage vs Forest Griffin who are two of the bigger names in sport. Torres and a noname guy is no comparison,, Go see how much Pacquiao vs Cotto or Mayweather vs Marquez tix go for. See how packed the crowd is for that fight. Thats a fair comparison, not two no name guys comapred to two top guns..  Boxing is fine. The welterweight division is great.. Only Heavyweights lack at this time
Josh_Nagel says:
08/11/09 02:21PM
I would dispute that MMA has "lapped" boxing in terms of popularity. More than 75,000 people in Wales would turn out to see Joe Calzaghe fight a mannequin tomorrow night if chose to do so, and Oscar De La Hoya could sell out any venue in Las Vegas if he chose to make another ill-advised comeback.

Star power in the middle weight classes from guys like Pacquiao, Cotto, Mayweather and others have off-set the lack of a heavyweight draw. There's still nothing quite like the anticipation in the air on the night of a big fight, and boxing is currently enjoying one of its best upswings in recent memory.

J_Logan says:
08/11/09 03:13PM
Boxing's biggest issue is that it lost its public appeal. With the pay-per-view movement in the 80s and 90s, boxing was taken from the masses and privatized for only those who could afford the $50 price tag and the hardcore fight fans who would follow the sport into hell.

Boxing fans used to be able to watch heavyweight title fights on regular TV. You could ask 40 people on the street, "Who is the heavyweight champ of the world?", and half of them could tell you. Now, not so much. The numerous weight classes and 19 different title belts that come along with them makes it even harder for casual fans to follow the sport's top talents.

UFC has done a masterful job of connecting with the public with The Ultimate Fighter Series. Fight fans can watch an intriguing reality series, connect with fighters and follow them throughout their careers. That connection makes it far easier for someone to fork over the coin for a UFC event than a boxing card. UFC has even had a few big cards on cable, bringing in even more eyes.

But while MMA may be all the buzz right now, there are only a handful of solid promotions. Due to sanctioning, MMA hasn't spread as fast and doesn't have the world-wide market like boxing. When it comes to betting, MMA's total handle pales in comparison to what boxing brings into the books. For every MMA card there are four boxing cards.

Boxing is coming around with the public, though. The ability to put together super bouts like De La Hoya vs. Mayweather and Pacquiao vs. Hatton has grabbed the people's attention again. Promoters have realized that there doesn't have to be a title on the line to make a great fight - they just have to give the people what they want.

It's too bad it has taken so long to realize this. Fight fans were screwed out of some amazing would-be bouts in the 90s. Jones Jr. versus Tyson anyone?

Josh_Nagel says:
08/11/09 03:55PM
How about Jones Jr. vs. anyone decent when Jones was in his prime? Lack of marquee fights involving Jones Jr. specifically were due to his own hesitancy to risk his legacy, not the fault of boxing's transition into PPV cards. Same with Lennox Lewis ... he never fought Riddick Bowe and Tyson only after Mike was well past his prime.

The new wave of fighters is proving that taking the best available opponent is good for both their bankrolls and their reputations, win or lose.

NJDevils says:
08/11/09 10:58PM
I disagree that MMA has passed it. I love watching both

I think a lot of MMA fans are Johnny Come Lately  Tapout T shirt wearing wannabe douchers and to me a lot of them have no clue about the ins and outs of the sport, they boo once a fight goes to the ground, they cry fix when Anderson Silva annihilates Forrest Griffin etc.

I think boxing may be in a lull but watch the buzz and the crowds for Manny-Cotto or the just announced Paul Williams-Kelly Pavlik fight..or the Klitschko brothers over in Europe are friggin huge.

I think the MMA people like to hype that they are passing boxing but honestly i disagree and like I said I love watching both sports. You get another heavyweight guy like a Tyson in there who crosses over and grabs "manistream" people and boxing will be back..not as big as it was but I dont think its going anywhere

Charlie111 says:
08/12/09 10:05AM
Pay per view ruined Boxing.
rjbodnar62 says:
08/12/09 10:07AM
Floyd vs. JMM

Pac vs. Cotto

Pavlik vs. PW

Froch vs. Dirrell

Kessler vs. Ward

Taylor vs. Abraham

Klitschko vs. Arreola

Haye Vs. Valuev

C Dawson Vs. G. Johnson

Klit vs. Chambers

Bute vs. Andrade

 

Its a great fall to be a boxing fan. Can't remember a time I've been this excited about the coming matchups. If they keep making the fights people wanna see, it will start to comeback and this fall is a great start.

NJDevils says:
08/13/09 02:41AM
p1a2t3 says:
08/13/09 07:24PM
I still cant believe they wont put a primo boxing matchup on primetime TV.IT WILL SELL!

When I was younger Sugar Ray Leonard vs. Wilfredo Benitez was on primetime,what a show that was.

NJDevils says:
08/14/09 04:41AM
Diaz Malignaggi is also interesting  even though its not a great fight
Coweringbeef says:
08/14/09 12:08PM
I don't think boxing is going to die soon.

 

Boxing gives a longer spectacle, and more established champions.

 

To many people, MMA contains to much of a luck factor and it doesn't seem a proper contest because of this.

 

If worse comes to worse, boxing will revert to a smaller glove, which I think would not be a bad thing.

 

A small glove = puncher gloves = more KO's and less hiding behind a turtle guard like Winky Wright, Clottey, Kotelnik.

 

Using judges and referees from a third party or other "fair" source might help too, but then again maybe it has little effect on the ticket sales.

MIXED_NUTS says:
08/14/09 01:12PM
MMA......... CHOKEHOLD THESE NUTS !!! ......BOXING IS ALIVE & KICKIN' ASS
MIXED_NUTS says:
08/14/09 01:13PM
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morbe290 says:
08/21/09 07:28AM
David Tua October 3 .....



DannoDanger says:
08/21/09 07:30AM

 

LOL! 

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