Am I crazy or do the Buffalo Bills not look that bad?

I was looking at all the NFL depth charts today and when I got to them I thought "this team really doesnt look that bad"

If Fitzpatrick is good I think they have some offense. They have good LBs and I like their secondary

They wont win that division but to me they look like a pretty good team. Catching points from teams I think I will be on them early in the year

WTF is Brian Burke smoking?

Yeah Rafalski and Parise and Langenbrunner had nothing to do with the win and they were all terrible. What a f*cking idiot

While most everyone around Team USA is celebrating Sunday's win over Canada, GM Brian Burke has thrown cold water on the "Minor Miracle on Ice."

"I'm not happy with the way we played,'' Burke told SeattlePI.com. "If that's how we play, we're going to have a hard time getting where we want to be."

Goaltender Ryan Miller made 42 saves in the 5-3 win over Canada that gave the USA the top seed in the single-elimination medal tournament.

"Except for the goaltender position, we did not deserve it," Burke said. "But that's why we brought him. That's not going to work in the next round. We know it.''

Team USA will play the winner of the Belarus-Switzerland qualifying game.

"I am not pleased with how we played to this point," Burke said. "Unless we crank it up, this will all be for naught.''

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anyone in here interested in a yahoo fantasy hockey league?

was going to do a league, none of my dopey friends do fantasy crap...not as nerdy as me i guess

obviously it would just be for fun or whatever...im pretty civil with the hockey crowd in here so if you know my yahoo id who cares

i would do it as a points league
and set it up for # of people we'd get in

team names would be user name on here if you wanted

do an autodraft where you rank your guys and  then it runs and you get guys according to how you rank em

id use this set up for points...roster set up under that
Forwards/Defensemen Stat Category Value Goals (G) 5 Assists (A) 2.5 Plus/Minus (+/-) 1 Penalty Minutes (PIM) .25 Shots on Goal (SOG) .25 Goaltenders Stat Category Value Wins (W) 5 Goals Against (GA) -1 Saves (SV) .2 Shutouts (SHO) 10

id use this setup for rosters
C, C, C, C,
LW, LW, LW,
RW, RW, RW,
W, W,
D, D, D, D, D, D,
G, G,
BN, BN, BN, BN


if you would want to do it  put a  in here and if we get 8-12  I can set it up

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The ridiculous notion that Jeter may be the greatest Yankee ever

Holy fu%k! What the fu%k are people on TV that allegedly know baseball even  doing discussing this as a serious topic?

Babe Ruth
Mickey Mantle
Joe DiMaggio
Lou Gehrig
Yogi Berra.........................................

I may be wrong but didnt those guys all play for the Yankees?


How the  hell is this even a discussion?

Who watches those Top 10 shows on the NFL Network?

I know this is a gambling forum but every Friday they have shows where they count down the top 10 in certain categories

Best SB Performances
Snakebitten Franchises
colla[ses
Gunslingers
Power Backs
Hands
Linebacking Corps

and many others

They are fun shows, I dont agree with some of them (like leaving Elway opff the Gunslinger list?)  but I was curious if anyone else watches them. Maybe each week we post the topic and discuss em...or not

Honestly why do we even bother as fans of the NFL

besides the Gambling

They allow every 2 but thug criminal into the league and then read this piece on how they extort the fans

THERE is no rise in unem ployment, no hard times, no worries. What reces sion? In fact, things have never been better. There's no better time for a big league team owner to continue to act on the conditioned notion that the only patrons worth having are the wealthy foolish. Everyone else can get lost, and stay there.

And, as always, it sure helps if the commissioner of your sport actually serves as your CFO/agent/rubber stamp, a fellow happy to enable you to do anything in the pursuit of money.

There's really no great difference between Bud Selig and Roger Goodell. Both have demonstrated, through countless look-away passes, that the "steal sign" is always on, no need to step out of the box to look down for signals.

The Kansas City Chiefs this week announced that those wishing to purchase single-game tickets to the team's biggest-draw home games this season -- against the Cowboys and Steelers -- must be victims of an extortion. They must buy an equal number of same-priced tickets to one of the Chiefs' two preseason home "games," one against the Seahawks, the other against the Texans.

None of the Chiefs' six other home games will be attached to such a fleecing.

In other words, for two regular-season games the Chiefs are charging double. And that's cool with Commissioner Goodell. Yep, if the... [More]

What NFL previews do you buy?

I know for college we all buy the Phil Steele one

for the NFL there are tons of them and I used to buy all of them now i just buy one

The Pro Football Weekly preview. they have the depth charts for each team (not just the rosters), good schedules, good writeups for each team by position, they also have the game by game stats log for every game. pretty handy for both handicapping and then even if you do fantasy football. Also they have a code on there for free online access to a couple of early season issues. For me it is better than the Sporting News one which I also like (i buy their NHL and MLB preview)

well worth the 6.99


Which one (s) do you guys buy?

Why are we not taking SF under every game?

Is anyone out there, smarter than me, doing this?

I was tempted to do this before the season and amazingly they went over in 8 of their 1st 9 but now they sit at  28-34-7 meaning that since that start they have gone 20 overs 33 unders with 7 pushes

I am always afraid to jump in and do this because i know once I do they will go over about 8 times in a row

anyone?

I know someone else in here started a similar Indians over thread a week or so ago

How good was that f'n game!!!

You Pens and Wings fans mustve had f'n heart attacks

I must admit rooting for the Pens and my brother...who was about to be handed the cup til they cut to the Mario interview

Tuesday's winning NHL picks

3-1 since I have stopped betting...to be fair I would not have laid the juice on Det-Bos, probably just done a 2 teamer that day

1-1  -.9  last night Pit- Chi   I am stunned Washington didnt get buried in that game.

Those were some good games...a little too much scoring for my liking but fun games

Canes E... The way I look at this game is that they were up 3-1 , got the Bruins best effort last game and now they come home and clinch it. Boston did look goos though. Chara was a beast and the forwards did what they hadnt done all series. I just think back at home with that crowd the Canes advance.

Red WIngs -150... You could make a case that they should have won all 5 games. Hiller goes down more than women in porn. Also seems to allow as many things between his legs. I think he has been solved. May not be a blow out byut on the road I think the Wings get the job done and advance

NHL players on Facebook

Ok we got that out of the way so you dont have to post it in your replies. I have a facebook account so one of my friends from high school is buddies on there with Chico Resch (the actual Chico Resch) So I click on his freinds and he has Sergei Brylin, Marty Biron, pretty funny though when you keep clicking on the friends of these players to see what players are actually on there and not just made up fan sites of the guys

Like Alex Burrows is there
Cal Clutterbuck
Leafs fans you can be buddies with Vesa Toskala and Justin Pogge

Marty Biron is there and his friends include Malkin and Ovechkin..and OVs photo is of him at the draft with Malkin

I just found it funny as to how many guys have accounts..Ryan Callahan

Maybe I should send a friend request to Eric Staal

my thought for the new season... as if you care, but if you do here they are

1st off the Devils will be much better than the "experts" think. getting Rolston is huge, they have a good #1 line now. Rolston between Gionta and Elias is a terrific line. The #2 line is solid with Parise,Zajac and Langenbrunner. the 3rd line is always the Madden line with Pandolfo and Zubrus or whoever they to put there (atleast Zubrus wont be centering 1 of the top 2 lines this year) a big 4th line with Rupp , holik etc. Rolston helps the PP immensely   Also on D they have young guys but they will be a year better. Martin, Oduya,Greene. Mottau isnt young but he will be pretty good. Savador and White are the vets. Salmela made the team hoepfully he is as good as the last Dman they got who was playing in Europe (Rafalski)   In goal Brodeur will be Brodeur and hopefully will not suck in the playoffs I really think a run at cup 4 is possible, I did not think this last year   REST OF THE LEAGUE   better than expected teams for me (bet the early before people figure this out) ...my top 2 in this category are Bruins and Oilers others that fall into this category for me are the Canes, Kings, and Senators   overrated (bet against them before people figure it out) Penguins , i d ont see how you lose 6 forwards 2 big Dmen and think that Satan and Fedotenko will replace all that. Flyers- Marty Biron really? I think he had his year last year. Lightning but i think most people in here know they arent going to be good and for some reason people a... [More]