bashers and sheep
I'm liking Memphis as well. Their gonna be pretty pissed about the #2 seed as well.
GL
I agree with A&M and LSU, also love Zaga in their matchup, Akron has nothing all season long, the Zags will destroy them as bad as they did St Marys in the final.
How much stock do you put into travel distance and game times for these first round games ?
BTW, that google spreadsheet is interactive so you can put in your lines from your sportsbook and it will do the calculations for you based on Accuscore numbers, like I said I will update this on Thursday morning with the final Accuscore numbers as they are the closest projections we will get to gametime.
As a side note this is just part of my system in playing, lots of leagues have different trends and this is system was setup for conference play only to establish conference trends. But this is access to Accuscores paid numbers of which I'm a suscriber so any help is good help. What I have found over the conference trends is that Dogs do fairly well in the system as do Unders at least in conference play with some conferences having stronger records than others.
Just sharing insights.
Should be a fun week, man.
i was leaning lsu and cal so far. i like the insight on wash miss st i do like miss st but wash being closer to home and travel for miss st makes sense tough one.
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Surprisingly, among the top five hoop conferences, the most lightly regarded among the five, the Big Ten, is 55.1% ATS in the post-season the last five years while the other four have losing records.
With the NCAA Basketball post-season tournaments just a week away, we thought now would be a perfect time to see how the five conferences generally regarded to be the best in the land have done in the post-season the last five years, and the results have been surprising.
We did this analysis for the ACC, Big East, Big Ten, Big 12 and Pac-10 only, as we have lost some respect for the SEC this season and we do not see any team from that conference making a deep run.
Well, much to our surprise, the conference that we feel is the worst of the five majors, the Big Ten, has fared best against the spread in the post-season since 2004, going 43-35, 55.1 percent ATS. Meanwhile, the other four major conferences are all under .500 ATS.
This may seem surprising on the surface, but on the other hand, since it is common knowledge that those four conference tower over the rest, the lines on their games have been very inflated. So in that regard, it makes sense that the big-name schools have struggled vs. the number.
Let us take a closer look at the performance of each conference the last five years.
College Basketball Post-Season ATS Records - 2004 through 2008
Big Ten (43-35, 55.1%): Even more surprising than the fact that the Big Ten is the only major conference with a winning ATS mark the last five years is the fact that the best ATS team in the conference during this time has been the Michigan Wolverines at 11-3 ATS. While this will not help us in the NCAA Tournament, Michigan can still be a prime play in the NIT this year. It should be noted that Big Ten schools have gone a very impressive 33-20, 62.3 percent as post-season favorites since 2004, but just 10-15, 40.0 percent as underdogs.
Big 12 (38-39, 49.4%): If not for the 5-1 ATS performance by Kansas en route to the national title last season, this record would be considerably worse. Well, it appears that Oklahoma is the cream of the Big 12 crop this season, but they have slowed down considerably lately, so the Big 12 may be prime fade material this year.
Pac-10 (32-35, 47.7%): This is another conference that appears to be worse this year then last year, due primarily to the slippage of UCLA. Interestingly though, similar to the Big Ten, the Pac-10 has gone 23-18, 56.1 percent as post-season favorites, but the best opportunities may be fading teams from this conference as underdogs, as those clubs are just 9-17, 34.6 percent ATS.
Big East (60-66, 47.6%): So, the two conferences that are generally considered the two best in the land this year have been the two worst conferences among the five majors from an ATS perspective the last five years. The Big East has not performed well either as a favorite (38-42, 47.5 percent) or a dog (21-24, 46.7 percent), so maybe the physical style this conference plays during the season does not translate well vs. more athletic teams.
ACC (50-58, 46.3%): The poor performance of the ACC may be primarily due to the so-called North Carolina and Duke Tax, as those two clubs always play to inflated lines in the tournament. As a result, ACC favorites as a whole have gone just 35-45, 43.8 percent. It should be noted though that ACC underdogs have gone 15-12, 55.6 percent, so perhaps the approach here should be to simply play the underdog in any game involving the ACC.
Among the most notable schools outside of the five majors, Memphis has gone 12-8, 60.0 percent ATS over the past five years, often dispelling the criticism that they are not toughened up enough in the regular season, playing in weak Conference USA.
On the flip side, Gonzaga is generally considered a very popular tournament team, yet they are just 3-6 ATS in the Big Dance the last five years. What does this all mean? Well, the answer is rather obvious: avoid popular teams like Gonzaga and those from the major conferences in the post-season, as the big money is to be made by backing the less popular teams from minor conference that are undervalued.
Now, while this is simple when a major conference faces a minor conference, what do we do when majors square off against each other? Well, we have compiled statistics for every head-to-head matchup between the top five conferences the last five years (all records are ATS).
Big Ten vs. Big 12: The Big Ten has gone 3-2.
Big Ten vs. Pac-10: The Big Ten has gone 4-3.
Big Ten vs. Big East: In a surprise, the Big Ten has gone 7-5.
Big Ten vs. ACC: The Big Ten holds its own again, as the teams split 6-6. That is a cumulative 20-16, 55.6 percent record for the seemingly inferior Big Ten vs. the four best conferences in the country. Obviously, this does not mean that the Big Ten is better, but rather, it is a combination of the conference being undervalued and the top four conferences being overvalued.
Big 12 vs. Pac-10: These conferences have split 4-4.
Big 12 vs. Big East: The Big East has gone 6-5.
Big 12 vs. ACC: These conferences have split 5-5. When you add in the 2-3 performance for the Big 12 vs. the Big Ten, the conference has a losing 16-18, 47.1 percent mark vs. the other four majors. Worse yet, there is no 2008 Kansas team this year to carry this conference.
Pac-10 vs. Big East: These conferences have split 5-5.
Pac-10 vs. ACC: The ACC has gone 3-1. When you add in the split for the Pac-10 vs. the Big 12 and their losing 3-4 mark vs. the Big Ten, the Pac-10 is a cumulative 13-16, 44.8 percent ATS vs. the other four majors. This also looks like a down year for the conference, as UCLA has slipped noticeably since last year.
Big East vs. ACC: The ACC leads the battle of the powerhouses 11-9 the last five years. It should be noted however that the ACC has become extremely top-heavy while the Big East is the much deeper conference now. Duke is 2-1 vs. the Big East during this time, although the loss came last year (West Virginia). North Carolina is just 1-2 vs. the Big East, with the win coming last year (Louisville). From a Big East perspective, Connecticut is 2-1 vs. the ACC, while Pittsburgh has not faced an ACC team in the post-season the last five years.
Stephen F Austin is the black horse of the tourney.. They are a small school here in Texas but they have a great b-ball team.. They should give CUSE a run for their money. If CUSE doesnt play the seriously, they will get beat. SFA can flat out play...
Do you cap all these games differently then you would in the regular season. I know that most of these teams don't play each other consistently so you don't have past matchups to base anything off of. But is there anything else you do differently than the regular season.
Thanks and GL
All the extra info always helps. It always helps to get some elses input to see if i am missing something
The front court duo of Buchanan (15ppg, 6reb) and Faried (14ppg, 13reb) will be too much for Chief Kickingstallionsims (sp?) and his Hornets
i bombed on that one
im having trouble seeing lsu winning vs butler jmo
cant get over butler beating xavier at xavier by 9 and xavier beating lsu by 10 at lsu
gl on all your plays
to be honest with you every top capper who has ever come through covers (granted i have only been here a couple of years, but i have been told it was the same in the past) at one point says F it....not worth it anymore
i have more fun betting games and chatting via e-mail with some key covers members than getting the 1000+ views i used to get
it was fun building my reputation up to that level.....but once you get there it's no fun anymore
good luck this tourney season, and drop me a line if you ever wanna chat about a game or matchup
GL in tourney folks.
Loving that ND Under play
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=pO5FQaf7haZKeU2N4p05-IQ&hl=en
Since I am a UCONN fan, I hated to see Mempis in their bracket.
See if any don't hit you....
Select #1 : NCAA Basketball (Rider at Liberty - College Insider Tournament - First Round) Rider 3/17/2009 7:00 PM - (EST) Money Line +160 for Game
Select #2 : NCAA Basketball (Rhode Island at Niagara - NIT Tournament - First Round) Rhode Island 3/17/2009 7:00 PM -(EST) Money Line +165 for Game
Select #3 : NCAA Basketball (Nebraska at New Mexico - NIT Tournament - First Round) Nebraska 3/17/2009 10:00 PM - (EST) Money Line +310 for Game
Select #4 : NCAA Basketball (Drake at Idaho U - College Insider Tournament - First Round) Drake 3/18/2009 10:00 PM - (EST) Money Line +115 for Game
Select #5 : NCAA Basketball (Miami Florida at Providence - NIT Tournament - First Round) Miami Florida 3/18/2009 7:00 PM - Money Line +125 for Game
Select #6 : NCAA Basketball (Northwestern at Tulsa - NIT Tournament - First Round) Northwestern 3/18/2009 9:00 PM - (EST) Money Line +175 for Game Amount
irish 148
kentucky 136
Memphis I have winning it bro so I am not surprised at all with this team they only lost 3 games all year and no respect like last year because no one knows the players and everyone thinks they don't have a good team and it is just a bad conference. There athleticism is incredible, one of the best coaches, playing the best D in the tourney these are 3 important factors in winning a chamionships in my opinion.
Yes, think they win it all. There is not to many reasons for them not make it to at least the final four....
Your troy -1.....would be very careful of this one....if this gets to troy +1.5...taking charleston....otherwise no play for me...BOL
Hey pimp, I have 3 questions to fullfill my bracket:
1.who do you see beating Mich. St.?
2. Wash or Purdue?
3. Illinois or West Kentucky?
I am having trouble with these games, please give me some advice
I like your pick Pimp on the under 132 richmond game buddy....lets cash this ticket in......Gl
I really like the Over in Stanford and Vermont plus the points tonite but BOL
What you got for MLB Today...lol
BOL....and GB...Dogg
Pimp...
The Dogg is here...hey were are we
riding your coat-tails on this one my friend...
BOL Today...and GB....Dogg
Also taking a look at over in teh Kstate/Ill State game.
Thanks for the baseball info yesterday, 3-0 on those!
Will you post MLB picks on this blog or do you go back to the mains for that?