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St. Johns -2 ???? Something Smells Fishy

By PremierEdge | View all Posts
Posted Thursday, March 03, 2011 08:41 AM   21 comments
The hottest team in the country laying only 2 to shitty Seton Hall????

I smell something really fishy. If Seton Hall wins tonight, going to be a public bloodbath.

I am staying clear of this mess.
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atotheg1 says:
03/03/11 10:23AM
thinking the same. one thing that should be considered before making this play. These kids are from the same region, and probably been playing against each other for the last 8 years through high school and AAu.  obviously St Johns looks like a giving only laying 3 but be careful with this one guys, im sure everyone of these guys on the court are very familar with eachother. I  wont say dont bet the Johnies but this is one of those be careful type of games. Johnies might pull it off but trust me as a capper from this region this is no upset if the pirates cover. good luck guys
brewha42 says:
03/03/11 10:28AM
It should smell like Fish...... Jeremy hazell and Herb Pope entered the bass masters...
RJSizzle says:
03/03/11 10:30AM
How is this line fishy?

Is it St Johns fantastic 5-6 SU record on the road that makes this fishy?

Or is it the fact that they are a gleaming 5-6 ATS on the road this year?

Power ratings have this as a 1pt game. You inflate the line a bit because of the name on the jersey, so you see 2.

The line is dead on. The Hall has some great things going in their favor, so you cant inflate it too much.
TheSource2Win says:
03/03/11 10:33AM
Read my thread...

http://www.covers.com/postingforum/post01/showmessage.aspx?spt=40&sub=100994687
brewha42 says:
03/03/11 10:38AM

This one reminds me when Uconn came to Seton hall this year. All i remember is seton hall winning the whole game by 10-15 while getting 3.5. Needless to say Uconn krept back into the game while the Pirates went scorless for around 10 MINs.. Uconn goes up by 4 with 2.3 seconds and the Ball. Some how My PIRATES Got the inbound and scored.  TO COVER.....

Ill take the Pirates......  i am not scared...  Remember this is the BIG East and everyone is capable of beating anyone...

Good luck to what ever u Choose....

Just dont make Vegas rich tonight... Its hard enough....

poolman11 says:
03/03/11 10:45AM
ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE   I FEEL LINES DEAD ON !!!!
TexasD says:
03/03/11 10:58AM

One thing that scares me is the % of people on St. John's.  Covers.com shows the consensus at 78% right now, and the last time I bet on a game near/over 80% was when I took Kansas away @ Kansas St.  And everyone knows what happened there.

BUT, there IS A DIFFERENCE from THAT game compared to how the lines are moving in THIS game.

When everybody and there mothers were on Kansas (approx. 82% Covers Consensus), there was ONE sports book in particular that was "acting weirdly". 

While all the other sports books were balancing their $ action by moving the line from the opening -4 (for Kansas) up to somewhere around -6/-6.5, PINNACLE was sitting at Kansas -3.5 (+142) until they balanced their books at around 9am in the morning of the day the game was to be played.

PINNACLE is a good "barometer" of what the "sharps" are doing because it seems like they have a few people of importance with deep pockets playing their books.

That -3.5 for Kansas was THE BEST LINE on Kansas since they opened the game line up the night before the game.  ALL OTHER BOOKS had to move the line up to -6/-6.5 while PINNACLE'S line got EVEN BETTER at +142 on -3.5 Kansas.  (They were PAYING people to TAKE THE BEST LINE ON THE BOARDS that 82% of bettors WANTED IN THE 1ST PLACE!)

RED FLAG!  (Proceed with caution!) 

AFTER they balanced the $, they THEN moved the line up to -6 throughout the rest of the day.

THIS GAME IS NOT SHOWING THAT.  Actually it's showing a little of the opposite reaction.  Pinnacle started at St. John's -2.5 and then dropped it to -2 where they then had to give Seton Hall +2 (+119) to balance all the action that they got on St. John's -2. 

At 9:16 am this morning they balanced it and jumped the line straight to -3 St. John's.  Granted I don't see this line going anywhere further, but it might just stay between the 2.5/3 range.

It just makes me feel better knowing this information and that they aren't doing a St. John's -2 (+142) on me.  THEN I'D BE REALLY NERVOUS!

St. John's Red Storm -2 for me

Best of Luck Evry1!

TexasD says:
03/03/11 10:59AM

I think the line is right on and it stays St. John's -2.5 to -3.  Seton Hall has played some REALLY close losses to great teams.  They are in a conference where EVERY team is good.  They just haven't gotten enough Ws to "look" good.

Go Johnnies!

BOL

Greedybastard says:
03/03/11 11:00AM
Seton Hall moneyline
aggieaccountant says:
03/03/11 11:03AM
I think the Hall wins straight up here.
wjeremy97 says:
03/03/11 11:11AM

sportsinteraction had s.hall at +3.5

thats a great play for a unit. i have this game pegged at seton hall -1.5 at home.

Brewmaster says:
03/03/11 11:13AM
You guys are forgetting a key element here...this isn't a power team against an upstart team.  St John's is still getting no respect.  They're still playing with a chip on their shoulder.  There's blood in the water and these St John's seniors haven't eaten since they came to campus.  2 games against weaker opponents to clinch a double bye in the BE tourney that is played on your home court...how much more motivation do you need?  They're one of the hottest teams in the nation right now...all I'm saying is don't over think this.
Molsen says:
03/03/11 11:25AM
It's not fishy at all.  St. Johns is on the road.  Look at the Sagarins.  The line is right where it should be. 
PremierEdge says:
03/03/11 02:18PM


75-80% consensus on St. Johns.... You didn't think they knew the public was going to pound them??
PremierEdge says:
03/03/11 02:20PM


I am not saying they can't win but you have to figure Vegas knew they were going to get a ton of St.Johns money...... and why would they want that???
JoeyPublic says:
03/03/11 02:24PM
line is dead on brother.. as a matter of fact.. this is a one possesion game.. therefore it's inflated by a few points 

GL 
Mrsystems says:
03/03/11 11:58PM
What smells fishy, looks fishy and pays vegas off huge??

Seton Hall wins by 14
RJSizzle says:
03/04/11 10:18AM


Did you read anything I said yesterday other than this post?

I made a hell of a case for St Johns, I thought.


RJSizzle says:
03/04/11 10:19AM
***Seton Hall, I thought.


DOVJAK says:
03/04/11 11:10AM

casp4545 says:
03/04/11 01:53PM
To all of us who took STJ, we all got scammed.
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