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Dana, how much more obvious can you FIX a Fight?

By Sammy_Meatballs | View all Posts
Posted Sunday, August 09, 2009 10:17 AM   40 comments
Dana Dana good old Dana really hit the panick button after he could not sign FEDOR--
Understanding that the UFC was embarassed and took a huge blow in their goal for GLOBAL expansion and by shutting down all competitors failed. By signing FEDOR they would have basically killed all competitors with ORTIZ coming along also--

Now the UFC cannot say it has the best fighters in the world, because they dont have the BEST POUND for POUND fighter in the world in FEDOR-- His record speaks for itself--

Now bring on Anderson Silva vs Forrest Griffith? Let's look at this match a little closer-- DANA knows that his Best fighter in the UFC is ANderson SIlva, he is ranked 2nd in the pound for pound rankings and is huge for marketing, next to FEDOR---

So DANA knows a loss by Silva is a disaster to the UFC, and also a lacklustre win is not good either again. He knows that Forrest basically is a feeder for other fighters- Forrest is not really that good- They fixed the first fight vs Quinton jackson to get a Champion from the ULTIMATE fighter SHOW to give it credibilility.

Remember the UFC was at its peak popularity when CHUCK Liddel was champion and Forrest was a great marketing PLOY as he was the average white bar fighter scrappy labourer type of fighter--

Dana approaches FORREST explains to him that he needs him to tank this fight and be cautious and let SILVA win the fight within the first 3 minutes-- This way everyone forgets about FEDOR, which is what is happening as we speak- WHO IS TALKING ABOUT FEDOR NOW?  FOrrest accepts the money because he is a businessman first and a fighter second--- All fighters are in this for the money not for the wins and losses-- DANA owns the fighters and what he says you do and he will PAY you large when you obey him.

Forrest in the match if you watch carefully is throwing nothing, and even Joe ROGAN knows that he is going to throw a high leg KICK, I bet DANA told him that. So then FOrrest gets hit falls and wants to get finished but SILVA backs off and lets him back up, Forrest not sure what to do, approaches and gets hit by the softest punch ever and just falls and then does this weird QUIT symbol like no more--

Then he runs off to the changing room becaue he is pissed off for throwing the fight-- REAL fighers when they lose face the music and talk about it. He couldnt talk about it because he threw the fight.

Just like any good SCAM then the bullshit about broken jaws or Forrest was blind during the fight or Anderson had 3 arms or Forrest suffered a concussion, standard bullshit to JUSTIFY what you have SEEN--
Does that look like he suffered a BROKEN JAW in there???

After the fact its easy to make up injuries and say FOrrest was DEAF now----

This is what happened- It had to happen, they could not risk a loss to SILVA and also they had to have this fight end VERY FAST--

If it did not end this way, then Strikeforce is laughing and saying Silva is overrated, we have FEDOR and he is the BEST--

This was a strategic move by DANA to secure global expansion for fighting--

He tried his hardest to get FEDOR and because he didnt he knows that Strikeforce and MI will be around, he could not have his PRIZE and best fighter LOSE---

I think he had no CHOICE but to fix this FIGHT, also he won at 205 which makes a case for him being the best pound for pound figher in the world--
Having the best fighter in the world sells a lot and is huge in marketing--

So this is what happened- IT is so obvious that Forrest was paid to tank the fight-
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refer says:
08/09/09 11:21AM
You really need to go back to watching pro wrestling and WWF
refer says:
08/09/09 11:54AM

Cmon Crow....as one of the regular respected posters on this forum why in the world would you even justify this stupid post with a response.....the fact anyone would post more than a 5 word reply discussing who completly ridiculous this is makes no sense.....how are you going to reason with the type of logic this moron threw out there......you're better than that.

Let's spend some time getting some threads going about WEC tonight and see if we can make some more $$$$......

DiAb0LiK says:
08/09/09 12:30PM
Right... so he was hurt but continued to fight and risk further injury. Especially a jaw injury. 

Again,  FORGET THE FIGHT. LOOK AT FG at the start. You are going to tell me this guy was ready to fight someone?  You are going to tell me he looked like a man hungry to win?  No way in hell.

People don't want to believe there could be a fix cuz it would shatter their little worlds.

This a business 1st and foremost.  The idea is to make money, PERIOD.


mightyminnow says:
08/09/09 12:42PM
UFC has no reason to stage anything,  they are raking it in.
Joker313 says:
08/09/09 12:47PM
fight wasnt fixed griffin just got mangled.
mightiestmojo says:
08/09/09 01:22PM
The ONLY way I could ever see this one being fixed is if Dana told Anderson to take it easy on Forrest for a few rounds to give the fans a show.

Absolutely.

Dana: "Look Forrest I want you to not beat Silva, also please don't eat cake and sh*t out gold bricks, don't become President of the US, and absolutely positively don't go pick up those 747s at the airport and juggle them".

Forrest was done after the first hit. I guess his jaw was damaged, he tried to stick it out because he's a tough guy, look at previous fights, realized he couldn't and got to a doc ASAP. That's my perspective.

--phillyfan-- says:
08/09/09 02:49PM

   

 1st off, you are a idiot.....

2nd: anderson doesnt walk around at 230, he walks around about 200-205 maybe 215 at most.... do you think he cuts 45 lbs to fight at 185, no the normal cut for alot of these guys is 15-20 lbs, no more than 25..

3rd: brock never said he wont fight fedor, it will happen in time and fedor will be in the ufc within the next 2 years, there will be no-one else for him to fight and dana will make him an offer he cant refuse

4th: are you serious about that comment i highlighted in red?? GSP is just a wrestler who cant finish anyone in a fight? wow your crazy... if you believe that you are seriously as un-educated about MMA as they come......

, he is a great wrestler but his skills are more than that, i dont know what belt he has in jiu-jitsu but he has to be considered at least a high-level brown belt( FOR YOU SAMMY, THATS ONE STEP BELOW A BLACK BELT , white,blue,purple,brown,black with degrees in each level..thats hoe jui-jitsu works) with the way he put away matt hughes with that arm-bar/shoulder lock, that was a high level transition and tapout he put on hughes.. have you watched his fights, he finished and put away alot of guys... go pull up his fights.  matt hughes he submitted, matt serra he stopped, beat penn so bad he forced his corner to STOP THE FIGHT AND QUIT, jay heiron he stopped. i mean come on sammy get a clue brother, im not even a big GSP fan but your comments are false. to say he cant finish anyone in a fight is in accurate and you have lack of knowledge my man.

1 more thing, machida wouldnt get KO'ED by anderson quick, thats just a crazy comment to go along with all your other comments that dont make sense at all.    to say lesnar would be intimidated by anderson is funny .  go watch some of the old ufc fights when GSP just came in and brush up and become more knowledgeable of the sport before you go throwing around stupid comments... 

Ice4Blood says:
08/09/09 03:05PM
ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME WITH THIS SHIT!???

Fixed fight?

FUCK YOU YOU FUCKING MORON!

Silva would destroy Griffin 10 out of 10 times... anybody without their heads up their asses knows this...

holy fuck! they need to start implementing euthenasia for idiots like Sammy_Meatballs...

in case you missed it the first time... FUCK YOU for this horseshit post!

Ice4Blood says:
08/09/09 03:06PM
unfuckingbelievable...

censors... get this shit off of this site...

Ice4Blood says:
08/09/09 03:23PM
Sammy!?

you're an imbecile! stop talking already...

you have done a great deal to expose your idiocy... shut up and stop while you're behind...

--phillyfan-- says:
08/09/09 03:39PM
you are clueless with alot of the comments you make,  you say penn,sherk,and serra are weak physically...  thats funny. sherk is far from weak brother...   i said that the move he finished hughes off with was a high level jiu-jitsu move and never said hughes was anything special but regardless that transition and tapout was a black-belt level move so he's more than just a wrestler..   hughes training consists of jogging and pushups--->  that makes you look real-educated about mma..    and another great comment you made with saying HIS HANDS ARE SMALL QUEBEC FRENCH HANDS THAT ARE HARMLESS, wow what they hell does that mean... and you still say that he cant finish anyone..ok buddy.   and where does it say he is 220 lbs, if thats the case why did you type he walks around at 230..  thats a 10 lb difference.    fighters dont cut 45-50 lbs every fight, ive been around wrestlers and practice jiu-jitsu with ammature fighters, they are comfortable cutting about 15-20 lbs . anything more you need like a 6-month period to gradually cut down, or you will get dehydrated and feel the effects of the weight cut during the fight. anderson walks around roughly 200-210, and he cuts about 20 lbs for his middleweight fights..   so your telling me he cuts 45-50 lbs every fight...?  seriously doubt that...  have a good one as we see things differently...you are not very open-minded to the facts..
Berty says:
08/09/09 03:41PM
Guys please stop feeding the troll. Arguing with this idiot will get you nowhere. I should have stopped reading after I saw the words "Forrest Griffith" but like a train wreck I just couldn't look away. I feel dumber for reading this article and it's poorly thought out content.
DiAb0LiK says:
08/09/09 03:58PM


Sure they do.   OK, let's work under the assumption that there was no "fix" because Silva was going to beat him regardless.

There sure is reason to believe Dana wanted a KO. That WOULD mean it's staged. And this would also explain why Forrest stayed in there, if in fact he was injured.

Christ the crowd was chanting REFUND at one point. The UFC needs KO's because you are not making money if there a bunch of turtles in there. Joe Average is not paying to see that.

And in these times with everything going on, don't think the UFC is making crazy loot.  They are a business like everyone else.
--phillyfan-- says:
08/09/09 04:18PM
just 1 more bit of info sammy, GSP has had 15 fights in the ufc since 2004 and in 9 of them he won via submission or TKO/REF STOPPAGE so thats a good percentage of stoppages for a guy you say cant finish fights......  
DTher85 says:
08/09/09 07:59PM
Sammy, you sound like some schoolboy bitch who lost his money on this fight. Sucks you lost but now you look like an idiot and a crybaby. Wah the fight is fixed because I didn't win, wah! Just top betting on MMA then you fucking loser.
DTher85 says:
08/09/09 08:55PM
I hope you're not implying that Silva is the only guy who cuts a bunch of weight before a fight. All fighters pretty much have to cut weight before a fight. To say Anderson Silva cuts weight to move to a smaller division to push a bunch of weaklings around is just fucking stupid on your part. This thread is a complete joke now. Don't worry Sammy, I am done posting in this thread so you can have it all to yourself and think about how Anderson Silva is cheats because he cuts weight before a fight and how Dana White fixed this fight so Sammy Meatballs lost his bet on Forrest Griffin.
TorontoJoey says:
08/09/09 09:07PM
GSP OVERRATED?    R U CRAZY BRO?  
SMITH_D says:
08/09/09 10:09PM





Thank you, this guy is a fuckin idot. Obviously needs to move on to another sport... 
mojoe1 says:
08/09/09 10:54PM
I respect your opinion that fuckin forrest took me by surprise and couldn't believe he fell like that. He made it so obvious and can't believe no one can see it, Forrest can take a beating...fixed all the way!!! He ran out cuz he don't want to take the crowds reaction. Fedor needs to prove himself with lesnar the more he stalls with the UFC the more dangerous Lesnar will become
madshooter72 says:
08/20/09 06:14PM
typical sammy nonsense, some things never change.........trying to get a rise out of all of you
Gene024 says:
08/11/09 12:13AM
exactly.. no way is dana fixing fights.. why would he take a chance by it coming out by a pissed off booted fighter then destroy everything they (him/Fert bros.) built?
Gene024 says:
08/10/09 04:09PM
WOW.. are you guys serious.. i didnt read all these just the first couple. I cant believe you guys are actually saying his fights have been fixed.. give me a break. Yeah Dana is starting to fix fights because he couldnt get Fedor.. now Dana better fix fights or he is broke.. come on guys..

 

if i remember correctly forrest ran off after another fight or maybe he just layed against the fence and cried (not literally) and also when he won the belt he didnt even want to stand in the middle before they announced the scores..the judge had to pull him back..he just is one of them guys that doesnt take losing too good, or maybe he gets pissed at himself because he knows he could have done better.

 

Did everyone forget about that punch that ko'd kimbo? A punch doesnt have to be thrown 100 mph to knock someone out, and he wasnt laying flat on his stomach totaly ko'd.. he was hurt.. you dont have to lay and play dead when you get dropped..

 

Just chalk it up, Dand is not fixing fights, dont you think after a fighter gets the boot from the ufc they would go out and say yeah Dana has been known to make offers or this and that? Dana pisses alot of people off, too many people to keep something like this a secret.

 

P.S Silva is a beast, maybe forrest was just scared.. he wouldnt be the only guy that looked scared or acted scared in the cage with him.

Gene024 says:
08/10/09 04:11PM
Serb- i dont think fedor is number 1 but i also dont think if he came and beat brock which yes he would with no probelm, that would make him number 1..
gus1689 says:
08/10/09 02:12AM

you can't be serious, you really think fedor means dick to UFC's bottom line? of course not! would they have liked him to be there? of course BUT fedor would only improve there bottom line, certainly not hurt it! this company is hitting on all cylinders right now, the last brock fight had 1.6 million ppv buys and roughly 5m at the live gate, this past show (which was a B show) will do close to if not a million buys not too mention the live gate, and this company has been doing this for a couple years now! and your trying to tell me that Dana somehow would want to jepordize this well oiled machine to fix a Spider Silva fight???? REALLY!!??

gus1689 says:
08/10/09 02:18AM

Another Thing...WWE's biggest PPV of the year is Wrestlemania, and that drew 960,000 buys, all the others draw anywhere from 1-400,000 buys and Vince McMahon is a BBBBillionaire with a B....and Dana is going to let his company fall to the floor by fixing fights

DTher85 says:
08/10/09 11:11AM
BJ Penn has heart? He fucking quit against GSP in their 2nd fight, then proceeded to complain abot the vaseline ordeal. BJ Penn can never admit to losing a fight fair and square. GSP definitely has heart, just look at his first fight against BJ, gets his nose broken and his eye gouged in the 1st round and still manages to pull out a decision despite being able to see with only one eye. Also GSP is a much more rounded fighter than you think. The guy can box and everytime people say he is the inferior striker coming into the fight he surprises us all and ends up out boxing someone. When no one can stop your takedowns then why do something else? If it ain't broke don't fix it....
refer says:
08/10/09 01:15PM
What is equally as amazing as how such a completly dumbass post and obvious lack of knowledge on Sammy's and a couple other posters part has gotten so much traction in this forum and on this post......this is obviously a "johnny come lately" to the sport who truely doesn't understand much about it today or in the past. I believe one of the idiot posters said it all when he said "I have been a UFC fan since back in the tank abbot days" ... you mean right after Tank Abbot left pro wrestling and had a terrible MMA career ????
refer says:
08/10/09 01:32PM
http://www.mmatorch.com/artman2/publish/Keller_s_Take_33/KELLER_S_BLOG_on_UFC_101_Thoughts_Forrest_Griffin_humiliated_but_he_joins_a_prestigious_club_printer.shtml

 

If you are interested in reading and intelligently written piece why this whole take a dive BS makes no sense check out the above............

Marky_Mark13 says:
08/11/09 10:28AM
lol this guy doesnt even know who Silva just fought....first his name is Griffith then Griffing lol

 

what a tool

river_ratat says:
08/10/09 11:42AM
HAHAHA Sammy you make me laugh bro...

.i don't know about that Silva fight being fixed but it wouldn t surprise me either......GSP could have been a safety for an nfl team hahahahah sammy thats too much....Bet he coulda been a pro nba player too if he wanted to hes an Athlete first then a fighter not a born fighter but a born athlete ...anyways i do not personally think that the silva /griffin fight was fixed but YOU NEVER know there are certain developments and points in that fight one can argue that it may have been rigged.......

Now time to make some money in poker..

LAY IT DOWN AND WIN

river_ratat says:
08/10/09 11:49AM
Honeslty bros i gotta side with Sammy here He raises great points about GSP in terms of the weight class but not the wrestler comments though...He needs to step it up at 185...

and BJ does fight bigger men than himself. at 185 GSP will have to have another game plan than tackles it wouldn t be as easy to do that with the bigger guys who will match up well with GSP size...

Steven19083 says:
10/25/09 07:49PM
What books have live betting on UFC?
Joker313 says:
08/10/09 12:33AM
you obviously can't handle the truth cus the proof is in the pudding
Joker313 says:
08/09/09 11:58PM
sammy just wants attention that's all
FREE_WINNERS says:
08/10/09 12:06AM
sammy meatballs is your such a genius then..

HOW MUCH DID U WIN ON SILVA? i bet NOTHING!!

FREE_WINNERS says:
08/10/09 12:08AM
by the way look at kimbo slice he got knocked out with 1 jab and he has a rock hard chin.. forrest can take a beating but when every punch lands on the button it's only a matter of time before he's done.
Glenn_Beck says:
08/10/09 11:08AM
You should probably just stop talking sammy.
DiAb0LiK says:
08/10/09 12:59AM


So why take the fight?


Stinky1 says:
10/25/09 03:07PM
I seriously question that.


DanDawg84 says:
10/25/09 04:30AM
Dana  is doing more to legitimize the WWE than Vince could ever dream of doing. Call Dana tomorrow to get UFC 106 results....LOL  
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