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Ron Artest, on-purpose or an accident?

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Posted Monday, April 23, 2012 11:01 AM   47 comments

Just wanted to hear people’s opinions on the incident that happened in the Lakers vs Thunder game last night. The game itself was a classic double over-time thriller in which Kobe showed once again that as long as he is capable of running the Lakers will never go away. He forced Russell Westbrook into a 3-22 shooting night while himself had a 9 point surge in the 4th and then 6 more in the 2nd OT to make sure his team goes home a winner. He had 26 points in total.

But all of this was overshadowed by what Meta World Peace (Ron Artest) did with a minute left in the first half. After driving in for a strong finish over Durant and Ibaka, Meta started to trump his chest and threw a vicious elbow right behind James Hardens ear. Harden went down on the floor and left the game with what appears to be a concussion. He will now have to go through an extensive list of tests and workouts before he can get back on the floor again. With the NBA’s new concussion rules in effect it could be some time into the playoffs when the talented Harden could return to the Thunder lineup.

I watched the replay so many times and I regretfully have to say that Artest must have felt that someone was by his side. Was the momentum and emotions he has at that moment too much for him to stop his elbow in time or was it intentional? The reality is that we will never know the answer for sure so we could only speculate. A suspension will definitely follow and it could not have come at a worse time for the Lakers. Meta has been playing exceptionally well in April and they could use him in the playoffs. The league will probably announce the punishment it will implement for the incident but me personally I hope it is not too drastic as we have to realize these are huge men who are competitive and emotional…this doesn’t justify violence but I will say again we cannot know for sure what was going through his head at the time so it could have been just an unfortunate accident.

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Efini says:
04/23/12 11:20AM
First, let's talk about my wager:
I had Thunder -1. It was a good play up until late 4th quarter when OKC let the Fakers right back in the game (ugh.. basketball). I should have checked the Lakers schedule before I placed my bet, and should have known that LA would put a good effort in their final home game. 

Now Artest:
He knew what he was doing. He knew Harden was right there, and when telecast showed the replay over & over, u see while he (Artest) was celebrating with his fist pumping on his chest, that elbow came out quickly. Bam!! It was like "get the fuck outta my way" elbow. There probably was some smack talk between Artest and Harden during the game, which led to the elbow. They're both accounted for the incident, but Artest should have known better and I'll bet analyze my wager cautiously before I place it on the Lakers during the 1st round.
Efini says:
04/23/12 11:22AM
While Kobe was out Ron put up some good numbers. Those numbers will drop during the playoffs
Sportsbook_com says:
04/23/12 11:48AM
I just dont see him not realizing that someone was at his side, it had to be a get out the way elbow and also Artest doesnt guard Harden so I dont see how they would start talking smack to each other...either way this is a major blow for the Lakers in their playoff run...lets see what kind of fine/suspension the league hands down on him...shame...u must admit though, Kobe is an animal
CallMeSteve-O says:
04/23/12 12:02PM
The elbow didn't look like a part of the post-dunk celebration.

A true "unintentional elbow" = MWP turning around as soon as he hit harden

The celebration was supposed to be him pounding his chest (Like a gorilla sort of)
If you watch the video, only his right hand pounds his chest, his left hand elevates higher and doesn't even come close to pounding his chest. His left elbow is clearly raised up to elbow anyone close by.
Sportsbook_com says:
04/23/12 12:05PM
yea you know if he naturally reacted for exaplme as me or you would i think...instantly tend to Harden and apologize to his teammates I dont even think a suspension would be imposed...still would have probably left the game but ehhh
Marinofan says:
04/23/12 12:42PM
That elbow was horrific. Arrest knew exactly what he was doing. Bunch of bull shit. 
slokmart1 says:
04/23/12 02:40PM
Who has ever thrown an elbow like that ON ACCIDENT???
Vesco says:
04/23/12 04:04PM
Listen Guys, they need to suspend that CRAZY MOTHERFUCKA (RON ARTEST) remainder of season & 5 games in playoffs!!! That was a VICIOUS ELBOW!!! I just hope Harden is ok.
penball says:
04/23/12 04:16PM
that was clearly intentional by meta wierd piece artest
PopMiaBrewskies says:
04/23/12 04:20PM
If it was inadvertent, you think he would have turned around to at least acknowledge it and show some concern for Harden! His sorry ass should be suspended for the rest of the year, it would have been less harmful if he manned up toe to to and just punched him in the face! Friggin coward!
specs says:
04/23/12 05:31PM
He's Ron Artest, he def knew what he was doing. There all a bunch of thug a-holes!
suzannetq says:
04/23/12 06:18PM
Ron Artest once responded to a question in an interview by saying he was really thankful that god didn't create man to lose his teeth at 18 or 20. He also once told a story about his buddy getting stabbed in the heart by a picnic table leg in a pick up game in an interview after a playoff game. He went into the stands during a basketball game and started a fight with a fan. He asked Rick Carlisle for time off from professional basketball to work on his rap album. The only way I'll agree he didn't throw that elbow on purpose is if you claim insanity. Either way the guy deserves the rest of his life to pursue his full time rap career.
Barbarossa says:
04/23/12 06:24PM
i hope the Lakers will react this time , and send that motherfucker Artest to the Bobcats
crocnzeeba says:
04/23/12 06:48PM
If you view the man in total, throughout his career, it's obvious that Metta suffers from some serious behavioral disorders. I'm NOT a professional, but I know a lot about mental health issues. His intense rage boils over...sometimes it's years between outbursts. But it happens over and over again because 1. He hasn't addressed the underlying CAUSE of his anger and 2. He's remains in the same highly-charged, physically competitive profession. All he's managed to do is suppress that anger for periods of time. It's still there, and it will erupt again at some point in the future unless he makes drastic changes in his life. Often the root cause of such anger is sublimated self-loathing.
mylife23 says:
04/23/12 07:26PM
it's not even up for discussion...the topic should be whether his crazy ass is permanently banned from the league or not...what a douchebag
Sentient says:
04/23/12 07:35PM
Seems to me to be somewhere in between. When he started pounding his chest I dont think he was planning on elbowing hardin in the head but he sees hardin out of the corner of his eye and for a split second doesnt realize the consequences of his actions being caught up in the moment with adrenaline of the game. Hes guilty of something but not it being completely premeditated. I would compare it to the difference of manslaughter and murder. Manslaughter is you get caught up in the moment vs. murder where you know what you are doing. Hes a dumbass for sure but I dont think it was completely malicious.
CURTCHITOWN says:
04/23/12 10:18PM
LISTEN ,CURTCHITOWN HERE , RON ARTEST /MEGGA ,WHATEVER , NOT PLAYING WITH FULL DECK ANYWAY , KNEW HE WAS THERE ,

HAD THESE PROBLEMS BEFORE ,KNEW WHAT HE WAS DOING . WE'RE IN VEGAS MOST MONEY WENT ON OK , HE KNEW THEY WERE GOING TO LOSE BIG, SO WHAT DO U DO ,A DIVERSION .THREW EVERYBODY OFF , JUST ENOUGH TO WIN , HARDEN MIGHT NOT PLAY IN PLAY OFFS, MUST HAVE BEEN WATCHING MMA YESTERDAY, SHOULD BE SUSPENDED , PLAY OFFS + 5 - 10 GMS NEXT SEASON . IF HE GOES TO OK , SOME ONE WILL GET HURT !!! CURTCHITOWN ON COVERS.COM EXPERT PICKS

SCROG says:
04/23/12 11:53PM
Artest is the perfect compliment to Kobe bean Bryant...NHL's version of a goon...the Enforcer to the NBA's best Closer....pretty simple folks
Sportsbook_com says:
04/24/12 03:15AM
Lets shift the topic a bit and since everyone thinks he should be suspended what do you feel an appropriate suspension would be for this? You have to keep in mind that this is the playoffs so in my eyes there should be some leniency from the league for the Lakers as a team I think...
sports_Network says:
04/24/12 09:02AM
a fragrant technical foul, game ejection, he threw an elbow, like they've been doing in the NBA since it's conception in 1948... is it wrong? yes, is it unsportsmanlike? absolutely, is it part of the game? yes, that's why they have a foul line. SHOULD he be suspended? yes, for one game, anything more would be considered a David Stern example to gradually make the NBA 'soft' and softer as time prevails. had this happened in the NCAA the rule is clear, "fragrant foul, game ejection" there is NO game suspension attached to throwing an elbow in college roundball..case closed- although, after review, it's clear the elbow was intentional, but not intended to inflict injury
Vesco says:
04/24/12 09:12AM
Seriously, due to the severity of the blow landed in the back of the head. 5 GAMES IN PLAYOFFS!!!!
cocky24 says:
04/24/12 09:54AM
typical nigger basketball
Barbarossa says:
04/24/12 10:09AM
on a side note , user "cocky24" should have qualified for the box , in addition most of his comments are racial slurs.

i hope this will come to the attention of a mod sooner or later

Vesco says:
04/24/12 10:11AM
cocky24 what????? This is the NBA asshole not some pickup game in South Central L.A.!!!!
Sportsbook_com says:
04/24/12 10:38AM
Regarding Cocky24 guys I agree, we are having a discussion, when did this become a racial conversation even if we were talking about a game in South Central...anyway I like the points sports network made but also the NBA is the highest level of professional basketball so I do think that 2-3 games would be appropriate as these athletes set an example for the college ball players to come
HatOnBed says:
04/24/12 11:10AM
He should be gone for the season.

I was wondering if you wrote un-accident on purpose. I guess you could call the correction an un-accident. Ha!

CURTCHITOWN says:
04/24/12 11:33AM
I GUESS COCKY24 DIDN'T WATCH DETROIT PISTON BASKETBALL , BILL LAMBER . A WHITE GUY , LISTEN U HAVE TO HAVE AN ENFORCER ON YO TEAM ,BUT U ALSO HAVE TO RESPECT THE INTEGRITY OF THE GM . IF U DON'T SUSPEND THIS GUY , AN LOWER THE HAMMER , U R ALLOWING THIS GUY TO MAKE THE LEAGUE LOOK BAD , PLUS IF HE PLAYS IN OKLAHOMA THEIR GOING TO FLOOR HIS ASS FIRST QUARTER , AN MIGHT TAKE A HARD SHOT AT KOBE AS WELL . U THINK OK IS GOING TO FORGET THIS , PLEASE , THIS IS EXPLOSIVE SITUATION ,ALL OK WOULD HAVE TO DO IS SEND A NON PLAYOFF TOUGH PLAYER OFF BENCH TO FLOOR MEGGA'S ASS , HE GETS KICK OUT SO WHAT .TEAM CAN STILL WIN . U THINK THERES NOBOUNTIES IN NBA PLEASE , THATS ANOTHER TOPIC THOUGH. P.S. AN U NEED TO SLOW DOWN ON THE ' N' WORD DUDE .
Sportsbook_com says:
04/24/12 11:56AM
I just dont agree that this was 100% done with malicious intent you know? I watched it probably more times than anybody, I think it is a case of Ron Artest not actually realizing that he is three times bigger and stronger than an average human being and not understanding the magnitude of injury that he is capable of inflicting on a person. I do think it was intentional but like a get out of my way elbow but again the guy doesn't realize how strong he actually is...
viking13 says:
04/24/12 12:56PM
He should play for the Saints. Guilty
Vesco says:
04/24/12 12:58PM
I use to box on a non-pro level and getting hit in the back of the head (Rabbit Punch) with gloves will fuck you up! He got full velocity & extension on that elbow!! It was vicious!!
serie56 says:
04/24/12 01:15PM
artest knew what he was doin n knew harden got hit by his elbow , he says it was an accident why he didnt go back to harden to see how he was?

instead he continue to celebrate he always like to get introuble typical artest...he should be suspended 4-5 games

Dailywin says:
04/24/12 07:17PM
Ron is know as KING KONG The most Stupid (Retarded) animal ever play the game he show never play again I want to meet him will give him a bitch beating!!!!
Dailywin says:
04/24/12 07:21PM
King Kong, is a first Class Jack ASS!!!
Dailywin says:
04/24/12 07:26PM
King Kong did it on purpose, she dunk the ball turn around make about 4 step into Harden and Elbow him. That Mother Fuc.. is the Son off a Thousand Fathers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
jackdfan says:
04/24/12 08:21PM
Yeah. You often see a player throw an elbow ABOVE HIS OWN SHOULDER to "celebrate"

This happens all the time!

Sadly, most of the stupid things that happen in the NBA happen to Ron Artest, or World Piece Of Shit...........Thank God we know have JaVale McGee!

Vesco says:
04/24/12 08:28PM
In english please.......
serie56 says:
04/24/12 08:40PM
artest suspended 7games..
jackdfan says:
04/24/12 09:38PM
Dailywin, you have several good points............

Sadly, they are on top of your head.

tomnolan says:
04/25/12 10:31AM
Are you kidding me. Ron World Peace Artest is criminal. That elbow was totally well thought out. He meant that all the way. He is a thug who does not belong in the league. To play is a privilege. He lost that privilege when he went in the stands in Chicago. He should be suspended the rest of this year. Maybe for the rest of his life. What if he loses it like that again and kills some boby. Criminal!!!!!!
Vesco says:
04/25/12 12:07PM
7 game suspension was just!!! This really hurts the LAKERS because they were starting to peak.
slokmart1 says:
04/25/12 02:13PM
Yep people can say what they want about ron (I am in NO WAY supporting him) but he is a pretty big part of that laker team, will be interesting to see how it turns out once playoffs start.
DDH420 says:
04/25/12 02:25PM
Jon Bones Jones is gonna be asking F-Artest to train with him after seeing that bow land right behind the ear.............. "It was an accident"..............what a fuckin lair
1011 says:
04/25/12 06:17PM
harden walked in to him.just bad timing
Sportsbook_com says:
04/26/12 10:37AM
1011 "bad timing" lol really bad timing on that one
MTFN50 says:
04/26/12 06:32PM
How could there be a opinion watch it .Its clear cut the loose cannon did what he always does.Calulated ,cold ,tring to hurt someone.Here in NYC we been hearing about this NUT from his days on the playgrounds of Long island city.Time to dispose of this lunatic for good
golfkat says:
04/27/12 02:03PM
Watched the elbow about twenty times. That was a "get out of my way" elbow. Artest is a

POS should be suspended from the playoffs. He is a crazy person. I am surprised he has not

killed anyone yet.

Vesco says:
04/28/12 08:57AM
It's time for the playoffs now this is a dead issue....
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