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Is Roy Williams the worst coach in college basketball?

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Posted Thursday, February 09, 2012 08:16 AM   34 comments

What a choke job. The guy gets by on the talent that wants to play at the "big name school". Man is a horrible in game coach and his players have no heart.

You just dont lose that game at home. Just cant happen, especially to a pussy squad like Duke. Doubt either team makes the Elite 8, thats if they get to the Sweet 16.

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ka4life says:
02/09/12 08:55AM

Roy is a great recruiter and usually has NBA talent but is in game coaching is questionable at best...which squad would you rather have, unc or duke?...UNC all day...but yet he continues to lose and do bone head things in game...even if his players doin bone head things its a reflection on the coach...Roy is a good coach but gets out coached alot of the times...this team might end up winning it all but i believe that it will be the players winning not the coach and these players dont have the drive to do it

quit making excuses on the reasons that UNC lost...duke made the shots and plays when they had to...who cares that zeller tipped it in (thats his goofy ass fault)..he had a chance to hit 2 free throws but couldnt hit but one...everone always likes to bitch about how lucky duke was and the refs kept them in it but unc was at the line too and had chances to put the game away but didnt and duke couldnt hit a free throw in the last 10 minutes...in the last 7 plus minutes in the first half duke went without a field goal...dont forget that or does a carolina fan want to make an excuse for that too

you got beat..who cares...its not the end of the world

march 3rd they'll have their chance to go to cameron and steal one there...it prob will happen but like last night you never know

 

mtndew146 says:
02/09/12 10:13AM
Roy is a great recruiter. Izzo would have rolled Duke with that talent.
lmontalv says:
02/09/12 10:14AM


great recruiter but his teams just don't play good defense... Obviously it's tough to win w/o talent but Roy has the more talent on that roster (outside of Kentucky) than anybody in the country almost every year... You could argue that his players really don't develop to high levels under Roy, I mean outside of Paul Pierce who's done WELL in the nba and played under Roy?? Just saying...
Krush says:
02/09/12 10:41AM
No way NC should've lost that game. The talent differential between the two this year is to great. How about a timeout when Duke was on the 8 point run at the end of the game. Every year NC has trouble guarding the 3 point line. How many time's did they go underneath the screen to leave a 3- point shooter wide open.
uncsfinest says:
02/09/12 10:41AM
iceman67...do you not realize that Roy's biggest fault over the years has been not calling timeouts in critical situations?  In 2008 against Kansas in the final four, everybody in Chapel Hill is screaming at Roy to call a timeout when Kansas goes on that huge run in the first half.  Roy refused to call a timeout until we were down 20 and the game was out of reach.  I just thought the information about Roy not calling timeouts was pretty well known.
cr619 says:
02/09/12 10:59AM
Don't overlook Tubby Smith. Worst offensive coach in NCAA.
collectNOW says:
02/09/12 11:06AM
Roy is like urban meyer.....only wins with talent and not good coaching.Great recruiters,but wouldn't win 55% of their games if they had to win with x's and o's.Just ask a kansas fan about roy! Duke stayed in the game and won it  because of coach K....period
uncsfinest says:
02/09/12 11:16AM
Look at the talent level last night.  In all honesty, Carolina should have won that game by 8-10 points if you are going on pure talent level.  The difference between the two teams and the game was Coach K.  Coach K is a great coach and is the best coach in college basketball in my opinion. Every year he maximizes the talent he has on his squad.  I do not like the guy, but all Carolina fans and myself respect him.
TheSchneid says:
02/09/12 12:26PM

Spot on, UNCSFINEST. When Roy was at KU, he repeatedly refused to call timeout's when the other team went on a run. It made no sense and seemed to be out of stubbornness (like LaRussa hitting the pitcher 8th all year until the playoffs). Then, he goes to UNC and gets to the title game, and KU goes up 40-12!!...before he uses a damn timeout. He must keep a jar full of unused timeouts on his mantle.

That being said, Scott drew is the worst I've seen in a long time. He is completely in over his head. He implements a zone that makes Jeff Withey look like Wilt Chamberlain.

jbyerly says:
02/09/12 01:40PM
roy is a terrible coach
CR306picks says:
02/09/12 01:54PM
This might be the dumbest post I've ever heard. Yeah UNC blew that game but it didn't come without Duke knocking down more 3 point shots than 2 point shots. Duke lives and dies behind the arc and it showed last night. How can you call this guy the worst coach in the country when he's won 2 national titles, along with 4 final-4 appearances. You're an idiot train. Tyler zeller bricks two potential game winning free throws in the final minute, then is absent minded enough to have his hands at his hips when guarding Rivers who stroked the game winning three. Is that Roy Williams fault???? Trust me, Duke isn't gonna hit shots like that ever again this season against a superior opponent. Duke always comes to Chapel Hill and wins, and UNC always goes to Cameron and wins. It's the nature of that rivalry. Give credit to the Blue Devils don't try to blame Williams who put his team in a position to win and they choked, not him.

Don't think that loss won't help UNC come tournament time. I've seen many times in the past during championship seasons this team experience agonizing defeats during the season, only to roll thru the tourney and win the close games. These types of losses build character and Roy Williams knows exactly how to channel these types of losses when it matter most in March.

Either way Train, dumb ass post. Roy Williams is PROVEN winner, and one of the most respected coaches in NCAAB history. Get your shit straight.

FoolishTool says:
02/09/12 03:42PM
The great Dean Smith has to be sitting back and laughing at dumphuck roy!! ,,,,,,, roy is such a candyass!!!! Thanks for all the easy money lately dumphuck roy, sports needs more coaches like you!!!!!!
Bunuts69 says:
02/09/12 03:45PM
Tough to be a UNC fan and watch that happen in ur face...I agree Roy coulda done better down the stretch with a few T.O. to break some momentum, but the truth is he isn't playing the game. The real chockers were those players down the strectch, missing free throw to seal the game...WTF is Zeller lettting Rivers gauge a 3 after the cat was already 5-9 from 3 point land. At least get your ass out there and force him to drive or hit an off balanced 3. He spent at least 3 seconds visualizing that 3, a whole lot easier than being on the run. I'm a huge UNC fan but you still gotta play the game with or without the coach!!!
iceman67 says:
02/09/12 04:21PM

If this was the case then I stand corrected....   I assumed from the play on the floor, that the jist of the TO was to slow the game down, which I didn't understand,

I'm not trying to say you are incorrect by any means,,, but why do you say he was telling them to continue pushing it,, was that brought up on air, and I missed it?

nolski says:
02/09/12 04:46PM
Duke has fire power to hang with any non physical team who wants a track meet.
Barnstorm says:
02/09/12 04:59PM
Duke and Missoo can flat out shoot the lights out on any team. But do either have the size to win it?
2169 says:
02/09/12 05:39PM
espn just showed a graphic that unc was 0-0 if fg att in the final minutes of the collapse.  I don't even think Roy Williams even drew up a college basketball play!
BillWoz68 says:
02/09/12 08:02PM
Izzo does more with less than any top tier coach. Up by 10 at home with 2 minutes left is an amazing defeat. Unexplainable actually.
smitty73 says:
02/09/12 10:12PM
hard time blamin ol roy for this one...barnes misses front end of 1 &1 , zeller misses 2 big free throws and tips in a miss shot in his own basket...i mean , i'm pretty sure roy didn't tell zeller "if you switch" play way off a hot rivers up 2 in the final seconds...
bizkilla says:
02/10/12 08:33PM
He is not a bad coach by any means. I mean, c'mon he has a .798 win percentage. 7 Final 4's and 2 national titles. He is an elite coach and recruiter. Just because you had action and the TEAM did not come through doesn't mean he is all of a sudden a choke job.
yanksea says:
02/11/12 12:49PM
Funny how all the "Experts" here are criticizing Roy Williams. None of you clowns have even coached an AAU team let alone an elite college program. Don't forget there was a pretty good coach sitting on the other teams bench in this game. Most of you have forgotten how great Roy's success was at Kansas. Sorry you lost your wagers but criticizing Roy Williams is classless and not too bright.
nikki_santoro says:
02/12/12 03:31AM
love this...roy is a great recruiter (bc of his name) ..terrible coach.. the bottom line is he doesnt recognize a run at all.. if unc is up btw 8 -13 and a team goes on 10 -2 run he doesnt call time outs.. izzo piterno kalpo even coach k calls the timeout ...momentum ..
Stoner30 says:
02/13/12 12:38PM
Tubby Smith is the Worst Coach in Major College Basketball.
earthWake says:
02/13/12 07:54PM
That team Roy had in '04 was the most talent I've ever seen on a college basketball team, other than maybe Duke when they had Boozer, Duhon and J-wills.

Williams is a great coach, but always has talent around him.

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TRAIN69 says:
03/18/12 07:09PM


Not sure what you are talking about. Doubt you do either.
TRAIN69 says:
03/18/12 07:10PM


Its just my opinion.
Barnstorm says:
03/18/12 07:14PM
I wish more coaches coached like Roy Williams and let his players play! This is real basketball. Not that half court crap, pass it around and force up a shot at the end of the shot clock. Half court basketball and not pushing it up the court favors the defense. Why can't they see that like Roy can? And it's certainly more entertaining. But more importantly, it's successful.

Now South Florida is another animal. They are a snail, but a smart and efficient snail. And they play great D. Now watch them lose to Ohio after I give them props.
IcallBSonU says:
03/08/12 10:28AM
Train's pic is probably a pretty accurate rendition of his looks if you go by what he writes. What a difference a month makes. I don't see him writing now, after Roy and his boys went into vaunted Cameron, pissed the Crazies off and beat Duke like a country mule. Poor Roy, all he does is win. From Kansas to Carolina. The man can coach regardless of what the hospital orderly thinks
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03/18/12 07:34PM
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livie says:
03/18/12 07:20PM

I guess when you hit prima donna status on covers, you hit a smartass response whenever you don't like someone's post.

Sorry train. You are awesome but your kind of a douche too 

 

 

livie says:
03/18/12 06:54PM

Norfolk State 86, Mizzou 84. 

Roy may have some faults, but doubt he would have choked against Norfolk State. 

UNC up by 16 now.

I think Norfolk State down by 25 to UF

earthWake says:
03/18/12 07:08PM
Train - Don't lose the credibility you earn picking nice upsets with terrible threads like this. You are smarter than that. 
sloop703 says:
03/18/12 06:37PM
Felt like bringing this thread back to life. awful clock management by UNC there to end the half. should have taken the last shot.
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