muffdiver3434 says:
Nice write up TT. can't agree with you more. Waiting for these cheesehead fans to drive the points up.

bigslickk says:
U seem angry....i thought u were done betting for the year

IgetMoney101 says:
It's kinda bad when you lose to Seattle and Washington in the season and should have lost to Detroit if it wasn't for a bogus rule     Go ahead and take Cutler when all the pressure is on his shoulders.

Greyhound says:

If you look at the Offensive stats between these two teams in that link I posted,   The Packers are better than the Bears in almost every category.    I'll post them later if I get a chance.

And these two teams basically play the same schedule so the stats might be a little more pertinent than another game.    

Packers have the better QB.

It will probably be a close game but there's little doubt the Packers should be favored.   

I like the Packers chances but I wouldn't be surprised if they lost.   Bears play them tough.   

Packers committed 18 penalties for 153 yards in the first game in Chicago.    That's probably not going to happen again.   

Greyhound says:

Here's another thing I was thinking about.      You know how the Bears didn't lay down in that final regular season game against the Packers.    That may have been a good thing for the Packers because they were fighting for their lives in that game and they didn't dominate Chicago and it was a close game.    They know that they are going to have to bring their A game on Sunday or they are going to get beat.    They know the Bears are tough.

If the Bears would have layed down in that game and the Packers won 35 -7 or something,   wouldn't the Packers be more susceptible to overconfidence?      

Maybe I'm crazy but I think that game helps the Packers this week.  

Viking17 says:

would've been tough game to capp if Pack +3,

but  Pack at -3 is easy money

BEARS + 3   

TampaTony says:

Come on Hound, CHI DID LAY DOWN that final game. The media and Lovie Smith would have you believe the Bears went all out, but do you REALLY believe that the PLAYERS went all out with nothing to gain? Just because the score was low it does not mean the Bears went all out. And even more, what does that say for the Packers? If this game was thier biggest game of the year, and they barely won? That raises red flags for me. Just like Indy and all the other teams that "snuck" into the playoffs. I personally think the books laid GB out there at -3 (now 3.5) because they know heavy action will come in on GB. Lets forget about the regular season shit and focus on the playoffs. GB's running game is suspect, I dont believe in GB's run game quite yet and GB is not even a full strength.

MJ2345 says:


Exactly if ever have played sports not that the Bears didnt try but they didnt need the game and the Pack was do or die different situation.As i said going by previous gms in the regular season will get you in trouble

hit_a_parlay says:

Greyhound says:

So you think the Bears layed down in that last game huh?   Couple questions for you?    Cutler got sacked 6 times in that game.    If the Bears layed down in that game,  why did Lovie allow that to happen?

And second,  who exactly do you think the Bears are?       You think they can play half assed and hang with one of the best teams in the league?     And the Packers ARE one of the best teams in the league.   There is no doubt about that.     There is no way they stay within 7 points of the Packers in that last game if they aren't trying.

And even if the Bears weren't trying ,which is complete nonsense, you're proving my point that the Packers learned from that game that they can't take the Bears lightly.    And from the first game between these two teams.   The Packers are in a position right now where they might be overconfident after destroying Atlanta.    But those two games with the Bears will keep them grounded in my opinion.

IgetMoney101 says:
I only mentioned the Bears losing to those teams because the original post the covers member talked about GB beating up on a lack of quality opponents and the fact that gb lost 6 games. So i brought up the Bears losing to those teams.  Gb did lose to Detroit but Rodgers got hurt in that game and Flynn had to be thrown in that game with little preparation.

alecboyh says:
Im with ya man, I just think that Da Bears will get it done, just hope BAD CUTLER doesnt show up for this one ... I just think that in this 3rd MATCH, the surprise element by GB Defense will be gone, let see if Mike Martz is capable of putting a good offensive gameplan to counterattack GB blitzing D and of course if Jay Cutler can execute it ...

KktdocT says:
GL.

TampaTony says:

Hound,

Why did Lovie allow it to happen?

These guys in the NFL are smarter than they let off. Let me just lay this out there, If I was a coach, and I knew that the seeding would potentially have u playing the Pack, for the third time, a team you have played twice already, why wouldnt you want to play them again. There is a lot of familiarity with the Pack, and that cannot be understated. If Chicago goes Vanilla (thus causing Cutler to get sacked 6 times), GB gains no intel out of this match-up. Chicago got to see everything GB had, because THEY HAD to put it all out there. Now, with that being said, IF I WAS the coach, for starters I would want to see GB in the playoffs more than the NYG of BUCS because both have punishing run games with good defense. GB has a good pass game with good defense (im still not sold on this so called rushing attack), but the pass is easier for CHI to defend in this case (ie Peppers) so why even bother by not allowing GB into the playoffs.

Who are the Bears?

Since when did GB become one of the better teams in the league. They had the same record as the BUCS and both teams lost to Detroit. To me, without Grant and Finley, GB is a second tier NFL team. Rodgers is a hell of a good QB, but damn man, he cant do it by himself. Every good QB needs a good TE, and GB is missing theirs this year. The Bears have a better pass rush, (I think the corners are equal for both teams) but CHI has a far superior LB corps than any other team in the league, including GB. (Matthews is good, but even he still has a lot to learn other than that quick inside spin move he uses to penetrate)

The LB corps would be why GB struggles against CHI. Its diffcult to run the ball on them, forcing you to pass. Trust me, Rodgers will eats man coverage up, but in Cover 2 he struggles, Check the stats. (even go to last year (Bucs game??)) The ATL game was a fluke and ATL was not a team I personally felt was a one seed. ATL had a terrible defense and they stayed in the game until the second half. Matt Ryan is not a great QB. He is just like Flacco, check down or roddy White. Thats easy to defend. Forte brings size and speed to the table. Turner is one dimensional, Forte can catch out the backfield and take it all the way.

The Bears will be able to control the clock better than GB also.

Im tired of typing, but I have more.

Greyhound says:

 "No Way"

Well than you should feel the same way about Cutler because he's played one playoff game in his life and it was last week.    

TampaTony says:
Correction, the ATL game was not a fluke, I meant to say ATL as a team was a fluke. A product of over-hype, just like that Pack right now.

TampaTony says:
I thinks it is perfectly logical for the books to set GB as a favorite. If GB would have been underdog, too much money would have came in on GB. With GB at -3, that gives people something to think about, and action gets spread more evenly. Now, with GB as a fav, they (books) get the a little more action on CHI (any given sunday) and get GB favored by points, when they are probaly going to lose, creating a bigger profit than probaly last week with NE. People are going to tease GB, pick th over, when the exact opposite is going to happen.

TampaTony says:
Getting close to game time. I gonna wait it out a few more hours. Spreads at 3.5 now, Im hoping for 4

TampaTony says:

MJ2345 says:
igetmoney,
I think they made the line that way GB -3 because of the hype and new everyone would still hammer GB at that.The line is right wasnt it the same the first gm they played.See with all the GB hype this is the only way they could get at least some action on the other side.Remember they still make the line to get action on both sides now if they would have made it -6 i would agree with you

MJ2345 says:



I never thought about it from a teaser aspect maybe thats why -3/-3.5 because i am sure no one expects GB to lose by more than a FG if they lose where if they did they would put the smack down on the GB teasers.

MJ2345 says:


igetthemoney ,
Well we will see,this is what makes it fun up until gametime and this why this is he best time of year with people discussing teams,trends,stats and then they all get thrown out the window sometimes like the NE game

Ryancoke says:
I find it very disrespectful for a Bears team that won their division, finshed 2nd place in the NFC and are now 3 point HOME underdogs to team that fought for a wildcard (6th spot) in week 17

IgetMoney101 says:
MJ         I do believe that the favorites on Sunday will go down.   The red flag that was raised in my eyes was the fact that the Packers were 3 point favorites early sunday night by linesmakers.  Chicago has one less loss than GB, they split the season series, and the Bears are at home. Why would Chicago be 3 point dogs at home. Just reading the line, I feel the linesmakers expect the Pack to win.    Back on 12/19 Pitt started off as 6 point favories vs NYJ but the line dipped down to 4 with out Troy P playing.  Now Pitt is at home again and Troy is playing, why is the only -3.5? I was expecting 4.5 at least. Are the linesmakers overreacting to NY beating New England or are they expecting NY to keep the game close?

IgetMoney101 says:
They say that the books want even action on sides but why wouldn't they want lets say 85% of the money on GB? If GB was going to not cover thats more money they rake in. Just imagine if GB was +1 the money that would have been dumped on them. If Chicago won by at least 2 vegas would have been seeing this  .  Now that the line is 3.5 some money will be on Chicago. To me I dont believe that linesmakers want even action thats just my opinion. If you had the chance to make 5 million or just 500,000 which one would you prefer?

lovinhockey says:
love it go bears