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opinions please [regarding 9-11]

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Posted Friday, September 18, 2009 03:15 AM   29 comments
OK this might be a sensitive subject for some as it regards the WTC collapse,
 
 If you would like to, watch this video starting at 4:20
 
keeping your eyes focused in on the center edge of the building at the level of the smoke rising from the windows follow the collapse keeping focused on the center edge.
clear your mind and just observe.
 
I don't really want to give my opinion on what I see so as not to sway towards one thing or another, but I will say this shot convinces me 100% that the collapse  was not as officially reported 
 

9/11 The Explosive Reality - Part 3 of 12

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnqHLoa-ml8&feature=related

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pjrez says:
09/18/09 06:04PM
What did you see?
zooyorkinc says:
09/18/09 06:14PM
I'm not gonna say what I saw until you say what you saw, ya see?
zooyorkinc says:
09/18/09 06:15PM
Seriously, if this is a conspiracy how many people would have to be involved?
wallstreetcappers says:
09/18/09 06:21PM
Not sure of the point trying to be made here.


vanwilder21 says:
09/18/09 06:22PM
Looks like windows exploding to me....
MrBlonde says:
09/18/09 06:29PM
I've watched it four times with open eyes and an open mind. Please don't tell me there is a single fiber in your body that even suggests anything other that terrorists flying planes into those buildings on that Tuesday morning.
SoCalSmoke says:
09/18/09 06:32PM
once again from conspiracies
jackdfan says:
09/18/09 08:01PM
Okay, kept my eye on the center edge, and whaddya know

The tower collapsed! Please tell us what you saw with your expert building demolition eye........................
Rush51 says:
09/18/09 08:27PM


Agreed.. 
jackdfan says:
09/18/09 08:40PM
That was the building caving in on itself. Of course the windows are going to blow out/explode. Take a paper bag, inflate it, and punch a pin hole near the middle. Hold the top of the bag, hit the bottom of the bag. Where does the bag "explode"?

Bonus question-if BOTH buildings were "fixed"-wouldn't they both explode the same way?
jackdfan says:
09/18/09 08:42PM
APK,

Simple. Explosives that leave no trace of themselves!
UNDERdogin says:
09/19/09 04:28AM
it's not I a bush did it thread.I promise

I in no way presume to know who was involved in the crime of the century,

please let me repeat this statement I in no way whatsoever presume to know who was involved in what happened on that day

I only look at the videos sometimes to pass time and sometimes come across ones that make me think ,, because I will never forget.

as I was thinking about it today I am not so sure about my statement about this video as it could easily be an illusion I am seeing,maybe I don't see flashes of light coming out of the smoke.

I have another video that is pretty interesting

In my opinion bush is a [scape] goat,

thus

start this video at 4;20

George W. Bush at Booker Elementary School( 9/11/01)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IedVRYUNWUU

UNDERdogin says:
09/19/09 04:33AM
zooyorkinc says:

09/18/09 02:15PM

Seriously, if this is a conspiracy how many people would have to be involved?

I have no way of knowing this information,

your guess is as good as mine,

what are the numbers of the official version? 25 or more Is my guess

UNDERdogin says:
09/19/09 04:46AM
It's not I a bush did it thread.I promise,

what I think I saw is described below.

I in no way presume to know who was involved in the crime of the century,

please let me repeat this statement I in no way whatsoever presume to know who was involved in what happened on that day

I only look at the videos sometimes to pass time and sometimes come across ones that make me think ,, because I will never forget.

as I was thinking about it today I am not so sure about my statement about this video as it could easily be an illusion I am seeing,maybe I don't see flashes of light coming out of the smoke.

I have another video that is pretty interesting

In my opinion bush is a [scape] goat,

thus http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IedVRYUNWUU

start this video at 4;20 and listen till 5;04 and then at the moment the kids pick up the goat book, bush is getting news about a second strike, and seeing as how he saw the first plane on t.v. even though there where no live shots of that happening.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xgk6bE58DQ

 

George W. Bush at Booker Elementary School( 9/11/01)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IedVRYUNWUU

UNDERdogin says:
09/19/09 04:57AM
why would he sit and listen about a goat at all.      

 

 why not interrupt right then as it seems to be the perfect time to stand up immediately and excuse yourself,before the scapegoat goat

 

AlexPKeaton

 

#12Posted: 9/18/2009 4:39:09 PM

Please allow APK to ask just one question

Please take a day or 2 to reply, if you need time to research...

If you don't have a definite answer, theory will work, or maybe even a possibility of answers will work...

 

  WHAT KIND OF EXPLOSIVES WERE USED TO BRING DOWN THE BUILDING(S)

 

Will check back later, Thanks

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UNDERdogin says:
09/19/09 05:02AM
I don't have a clue.

 

 

After reading the statement

 

QUOTE Originally Posted by vanwilder21:

Looks like windows exploding to me....

 

 

I think this is a good theory and has a good probability of being correct

 

I am always open to exploring more than my own thoughts

 

thanks for joining in

UNDERdogin says:
09/19/09 05:18AM

No point really,

I wanted peoples opinions to balance against my thoughts because I see glaring explosions in this video and I wondered if I was the only one.

UNDERdogin says:
09/19/09 05:20AM

I hope not more than I should have,

 

UNDERdogin says:
09/19/09 05:42AM
sadly there is, as I remember the actions of waco and katrina,elian gonzalez,etc etc,and kinda have to assume that where there's patterns there's knowledgable actions not just luck and coincidence

when you got money from your parents as a kid did they not require an audit,well if you happened to do something you wasn't suppose to with it what would you do?

I would report it lost myself,but that is me and according to your reputation the level of believability your story would carry,

listen to this prophet

Rumsfeld 2.3 Trillion Dollars missing Pentagon 1 DAY b4/9-11

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kpWqdPMjmo

if you told even the littliest lie your entire story came into question.

Rumsfeld caught in a lie

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZcSmsPvdFs&NR=1

UNDERdogin says:
09/19/09 05:44AM
Dick Cheney Caught telling lies!!

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5odPAK17hOI&feature=related

 

Bush Gets Caught In His Own flipflop [whitelie]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sulDYYAiCU&feature=related

MrBlonde says:
09/19/09 10:37AM
I respect your thoughts, and I'm always up for healthy skepticism, however in your theory you are discarding the entire book of factual history between radical Muslims and Isreal and the United States. You are saying that Bin Laden and a global Al Qaeda network, who have conducted numberous prior attacks on U.S. interests going back 20 years, and have claimed responsibility for this very event, are merely pattsies.

 

Anyone can make a conspiracy out of most anything. I urge you to become educated on the fundamental conflicts of Islam and Christianity and the monumentous global implications that this has demonstarted itself in the last 50 years. Once you've exposed yourself to the factual subject matter, you sadly won't be surpised that this horriffic event occured. Religious fanatisism is a dangerous evil.

 

I feel bad for people who stare at youtube clips. Some people are just born naive and unintelligent, others are simply lazy. You seem intelligent and willing to learn. Stop being so damn lazy and pick up a book. It will take you more than a 34 second clip, but you get what you put in to things. If you want a silly conspiracy theory, then watch smoke on a youtube clip. If you want the truth, attain some knowledge.

UNDERdogin says:
09/20/09 03:55AM

very nice metaphor with the bag,

as for the bonus question the answer is no IMO,

why would they?

 

UNDERdogin says:
09/20/09 04:05AM
Alex I answered your question above bro,

 

I have no idea what was or was not used, I am not an explosives expert I was just using my eyes and made an observation and then asked for others opinions because I find this helps me to keep from locking myself into an opinion.

 

 May I ask how that question is relavent to what you make of the video?

 

what blows me away is how so many people can just accept what is told to them by an entity known to tell lies

 

what makes the official story the truth?

Because they say so doesn't cut it with me,

they are liars and I dont trust anyone

UNDERdogin says:
09/20/09 04:37AM
very nice post bud,

It seems to me you are making more than one assumption about me from this one single post which is a little deflating to me considering your thoughtfulness in responding to this post.

Bush gives an amazing speech at the Israeli Kensset (part 1)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jyl9ey_3Ak&feature=related

gamble04 says:
09/20/09 05:39AM
There is nothing in any of these videos that is good proof that this was a conspiracy.  9/11 was done by terrorists and these videos are proof.
TBallgame says:
09/20/09 08:52AM
This is oo monstrous for even Cheney!  Tho I do believe there is NOTHING he would not do in furtherance of his agendas.  Bu the sheer logistics of the supposition make it doubtful IMHO.  But, I do admire the way you presented your Q?

 

Let's go back 46 yrs, to a day In "Big D"!  This has been the subject of more conjecture, opinions and publications than almost any 1 thing except for writings about Christ.

 

I'm a hunter & gun enthusiast.  Been one for over 60 yrs.  I'm a great shot w/long gun or hand held weapon, and know many who are as good or BETTER than I am.  Also many who have taught in the USMC as I did, and are balistics experts.

 

Having said all of that, over the yrs I have tried as have many others w/the exact same weapon supposedly used by LHO, to duplicate the amazing feat accomplished that day.  And IT CAN"T BE DONE!!!  Not that many rounds, from that distance, at that elevation, in that time frame.  THERE HAD TO BE AT LEAST 1 OTHER SHOOTER.  Just sayen.

MrBlonde says:
09/20/09 08:54AM
UNDER, like I said, you seem like an intelligent person. It wasn't my intention to cast assumptions on you or your beliefs. I know how you prefaced your original post, and I respect that.

 

I suppose my underlying question was, and still is, how do you reconcile Al Quaeda and Bin Laden and the internationally well documented network of terrorism associated with and continuously bred out of fanatical religion, specifically in this case, fundamental Islam in regards to the proposed theory you have so passively put foward here?

 

Please take a moment to answer, as I extended the initial courtesy to watch your clips and post my reply as you requested.

 

 

 

 

dillon24 says:
09/20/09 10:41AM
anyone see the 60 mins piece where the special ops soldiers had bin laden cornered.. and were ordered twice to back off?
vanwilder21 says:
09/21/09 08:05PM
I watched this very closely and saw the face of J. Edgar Hoover in the smoke after the tower collapsed.....
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