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Unloading on North Carolina tonight

By ValueforRent | View all Posts
Posted Wednesday, February 10, 2010 03:36 PM   37 comments
I don't think anyone would disagree that this season has been an unmitigated disaster for the Tar Heels.  After a rather promising start that hinted at another deep tournament run, the bottom has fallen out and North Carolina has sunk to the bottom of the ACC Standings, tied for fewest conference wins at two.  But as America's most high-profile college basketball team, the odds-makers haven't had to make any drastic adjustments to their lines, because the betting public has remained inexplicably infatuated with the young men in powder blue, in spite of their money-burning 7-14 A.T.S. record (2-6 A.T.S. in ACC play).  That is until now.  As the losses keep piling up, bettors have begun to grow weary of this sluggish and underachieving bunch.  People are sick and tired of being burned by these guys.  But tonight the mindset is all different and here's why.  For the first time in eons the Tar Heels are a home underdog.  They've sunk to such depths that finally the odds-makers have had enough and they've been forced to jack up their lines.  Due to this adjustment, I feel like finally there is some line value in betting on North Carolina.  This evening the Heels aren't being to asked to cover an inflated chalk line like they have failed to do countless times at home this season.  They are now the ugly home underdog, and that's a completely different role.  When nothing is expected of you, it's a totally different mindset.  Not only are they underdogs in the betting line, but I think the team feels that way as well and because of it I think they will thrive.

Furthermore, who is Duke to be laying this type of point-spread on the road?  As bad as North Carolina has been at covering home spreads, the Blue Devils have been equally as inept on the road, sporting an unremarkable 2-5 A.T.S. record away from the friendly confines of Cameron Indoor.  This included straight-up losses as huge 11.5-point favorites at N.C. State and 7-point favorites at Georgia Tech.  This team isn't exactly a juggernaut when they aren't getting that sweet home-cooking.

Given their abysmal season, it would take a minor miracle for the Tar Heels to sneak into the tournament.  Maybe it will happen, maybe it won't.  But if it is going to happen, a winning streak must start tonight.  A rivalry game against a hated in-state foe like Duke is sure to elicit maximum effort and inspire emotional play.  But emotion and effort are already assumed in a rivalry game as fierce and heated as this one.  I think the lessening of expectations and underdog mindset will allow the Heels to play infinitely more care-free and ultimately will be what propels them to the upset.             

Tar Heels +6
Tar Heels ML +228   

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Joey50c says:
02/10/10 03:38PM
bad feeling about this 1 with our turnover issues against a well coached team, but i'd like nothing more than to see these duke homos and singler the friendly ghost go home with a loss SU.....anything can happen in these games...GO HEELS
dick747 says:
02/10/10 03:41PM

totally agree but there is a HUGE ass above your post that does warrant a " big play" but i may not be man enough to service swizzols' chicks - I mean HENS - those are real "POUNDERS".

cajun_one says:
02/10/10 03:52PM
Man I want to play Duke so bad in this one, but too many good guys on the Heels.  It will be a no play for me, but I just don't see UNC hanging in this game.  They may be in it at half, but I think the Dukies just may torch them in the second half.  gL guys seriously!  UNC is really just that bad this year losing their studs. 
Parlaid says:
02/10/10 04:08PM

DUKE is obviously the better team period this year...only ''advantages'' for UNC being homecourt and need of a win....DUKE will still treat this rivalry game with the importance it deserves and take advantage of this struggling heels squad...

BOL 

geezytha8man says:
02/10/10 04:40PM

UNC is 10th in the ACC at defending the 3 pointer. Duke shoots 39% from 3... Do the math.... You guys are living on a prayer.... Hope you have a lot of finger nails tonight... You will need them

Nevermind, it wont be close enough to bite them....

Getty3 says:
02/10/10 04:46PM
Remember this game. It will be the last time you'll get UNC +6 at home for the next 10 years. The fear of playing the right side because it doesn't feel right is one of the greatest faults of all sports bettors. This game is true to your name,Value for Rent.
saedwards5 says:
02/10/10 04:56PM

I mostly agree that this may well be their National or at least in state championship this year, but I also think that we are entering that part of the season when the cream rises.  Duke has more experience and I do not think they will not be ready to play this game. (be careful)

bracks says:
02/10/10 05:01PM

nothing except HCA?

Or puke is a real bad road team?

or what is Roys rec vs. the Rat since he came home to Chapel Hill?

It seems also everyone forgets how great the Heels played in their biggest home game this yr IMO so far vs. MSU?

Should they lose. 100%

But don't tell me its a done deal like all Pukies will.

PLAYAAAA1969 says:
02/10/10 05:03PM

Heels SEASON rides on this game....

If MY BALLS  grow by game time

UNC ML , BUT 100% UNC + 6

BOL

ValueforRent says:
02/10/10 05:17PM


No they don't.  Nobody is expecting anything from them tonight other than another sub-par performance.  They have nothing to lose here and everything to gain.   The pressure is squarely on Duke.  What does it say about them if they can't beat a North Carolina team that's pretty much hit rock bottom?     
RyanRebman says:
02/10/10 05:27PM
I like UNC here, but I don't know if I will unload on them
scalabrine says:
02/10/10 05:29PM

Tremendous write-up

ValueforRent AND UNCforever both on UNC + anything at home in THE GAME vs. Duke...It is official...i am backing up the truck...

I think this has Play of the Year potential given your combined opinions on the game...when will we EVER see another line like this for UNC at home vs. Duke??!?!!?!

GL   
t3003 says:
02/10/10 05:42PM
I like Carolina as well.  Duke plays sub-par on the road.  But, are we getting ahead of ourselves.  We have trash talked this team this entire season.  Now, we want to back up the truck.    I like Carolina to cover just because Duke doesn't play well on the road and its a rivalry game (close game), but why go big?
TorontoJoey says:
02/10/10 05:44PM
DUKE
Kaufee says:
02/10/10 05:56PM
Value, I didn't have much of an opinion on this game. But after seeing all the moronic responses to your write-up, I am really starting to think you're on the right side. Yeah, UNC is having a horrendous year - but this team is still loaded with natural athletes that can play with anyone on any night. For those of you that don't believe in stepping up in the moment, just look at all the NCAA Tourney upsets we see year after year after year. Emotion plays such a key role in college hoops and I see UNC willing themselves to at least hang around in this game, possibly win it outright. 

I'm now convinced that UNC is the play



 
jwheels86 says:
02/10/10 06:03PM
Its all on the refs in this one. If they call it like that travesty game in WVU the other night, UNC will have a hella chance..
bettor2win says:
02/10/10 06:06PM
I think you are nuts. UNC is absolutely terrible. Line should be -9 Duke. Then again this is a rivalry. We shall see. I took DUKE baby! Did I mention UNC is my college basketball team? Not being biased as you can see, just Honest.
BigSeph says:
02/10/10 06:31PM

All anybody had to do was watch both these teams play a game this year, say UNC vs. VA a couple weeks ago and take Duke vs. NC State. 

It was obvious that UNC has a bunch of quitters and Roy Williams has tried everything in his power to get these role players to act like stars.  VA reeled off something like 18 straight points, UNC couldn't do anything about it.  Ellington going pro hurt Roy, he's admitted as much, as he doesn't have a guy who wants to step up and take the ball when they need a basket.  Drew2 is garbage, he wouldn't start for any other ACC team, he can't penetrate and dish and that's what you have to do if UNC is going to take advantage of it's only talent on the court (Deon and Davis).

Duke got shitcanned by State, but they were making halfcourt shotclock garbage shots, refs were and+1ing every layup for State, but State was trying with all they had in em to win the game.  Duke played lousy and still had a chance with a few minutes to go before that guard chucked one at halfcourt. 

UNC can't stop 3s being rained in their eye, Duke will shoot 3s until they start dropping.  UNC can't penetrate and dish, Duke plays solid help defense.  UNC has a bunch of aloof role players, Duke has 3 bona fide stars who would fight each other to take the last shot of the game.  Roy has all but given up on this team, he'll do everything he can to keep this one from getting away from him, but any team that gives up 18-0 runs at home and has zero confidence is not going to get my money on a bet.

Duke has weaknesses, and they've sucked on the road this year.  But Duke will give 100% tonight, and UNC has yet to show me that they're even capable of that.  100% of Duke is > any % of UNC this year.  Doesn't matter when or where or who the refs are.  You can't and+1 every shot when UNC turns it over 20 times and doesn't even get to shoot.

shakey12381 says:
02/10/10 06:34PM
gl value unloaded on the under
scalabrine says:
02/10/10 06:46PM

even if this is all true...you still can't lay 6 to UNC at home...too much cushion here...
bettor2win says:
02/10/10 06:52PM
WRONG SCALABRINE. LINE SHOULD BE -9 DUKE. DUKE WINS BY 9-15 POINTS. UNC HORRIBLE. UNC HOME ADVANTAGE GONE THIS YEAR.
cubd80 says:
02/10/10 07:27PM

over or under? We know Duke can shoot the 3 pointer, and UNC doesn't defend it...Duke is coming off a game where they struggled to score, but can UNC handle Duke's defense? We know they will play fast, but will Duke run with them or try to keep the tempo a bit slower.

Thoughts on the total tonight?

ValueforRent says:
02/10/10 08:58PM
Adding UNC 1H +3 small.
chicawowwow says:
02/10/10 09:55PM
Nice first half win VFR, best of luck rest of the game, tailed you on this one.
betforloot says:
02/10/10 10:22PM
Most underrated capper on this site...
swizzol says:
02/10/10 10:51PM



ValueforRent says:
02/10/10 10:56PM
This one will be tough to get over.  Congrats to Duke backers.




ValueforRent says:
02/10/10 11:06PM
Still don't think it was a bad bet and I'd make it again every single time.

Fucking pathetic bitches just choked.  And go eat a bag of dicks Roy.
RAPSLEAFSJAYS says:
02/11/10 12:03AM
DIE HARD FAN..KNEW ALL THEY WAY THEY WOULD LOSE  BUT STILL PLAYED!
FrontRowCenter says:
02/11/10 01:39AM
4theluvofmoney says:
02/11/10 12:11AM
duke pulled away late cuz unc doesnt have the guard play to effectively run an offense and they finally looked to graves but he couldnt get an open look as everything was forced.  there was no huge edge in this game but the under i bet as both teams are shells of themselves either away from home (duke) or all together (unc).

Duke is weak inside but unc let them off the hook with offensive rebounds off about 15 blocked shots.  If you back duke on the road or in a tourney you will lose more than not, this team is garbage and will exit stage left in the 2nd or 3rd round in march.

unc was covering for most of that game until a late run...you could sense it happening at under 4 minutes it just took a little longer to happen...unc is clueless because of their youth in late game situations and drew is a joke of a pg.  that being said, two baskets or a couple more made free throws and unc covers

one pick makes no one a genius or clown so stop hating on two of the better cappers this board has, its a waste of productive time
chicawowwow says:
02/11/10 01:00AM


Had nothing to say before the game, but after the game is over, then you start talking smack, classless

VFR, one of the best in here IMO, keep doing what you do, Best of Luck
chicawowwow says:
02/11/10 01:48AM


Wrong about saying nothing before the game, but still right about classless, you were right and VFR was wrong, lets move on, no need to come into the guy's thread and talk smack after he loses, especially to a good capper like VFR that has been helping this forum with very informative write ups. 
Pokeyrich says:
02/11/10 12:13AM

im sure he is, just didnt think NC is even a topic for convo unless ur betting against. 

i know i am pretty solid with my picks as well when i actually bet money at the book.

cali -4.5 is the lock for me tomorrow

Pokeyrich says:
02/11/10 12:04AM

wow.. all those who bet with NC are horrible. its not about due and and home dogs its about the game and the match ups.  when are you going to wake up.

KingKenny13 says:
02/11/10 03:03AM

I Really hope you didn't put your $$$$$$$$$ on that play...... WTF are U thinking.... It was Coach KK..... vs this piss poor team... UNC completely suks this year... total fade no questions... NEVER BET A LOSER EVEN AT HOME!!!! rebnds... late

TheU says:
02/11/10 12:06AM

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