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BetPhoenix is a bush league book!

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Posted Saturday, February 06, 2010 12:24 PM   39 comments

Phoenix has been advertising the free $100 Super Bowl bet for weeks now. When I called and asked them about it they said, "no problem" and said that they would put the money in my freeplay account. I've now talked to them 3 times over a period of days and been told each time that the freeplay would be in my account in the next 5 minutes. Still, nothing........

Don't offer it if you can't really do it BetPhoney!

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Greenikes says:
02/06/10 02:25PM

Freeplays are for suckers...with all the ridiculous rollover requirements and other BS, it's not worth the pain.  It's like when the crack dealer let's you try their stuff for free...

Jarrett75 says:
02/06/10 03:04PM
I just wanted to see how long it took me to get mine. Took all of 5 minutes. $100 free play on the SB. Thanks BP
TheDoctor195 says:
02/06/10 03:06PM
Just a warning betpheonix will have a rep call you all the time trying to get you to deposit money.  He was calling me while i was working   I was like I am busy working now leave me alone
Jarrett75 says:
02/06/10 04:20PM
I have been called and harassed by betus and bookmaker before, but not yet by Betphoenix. Not saying you aren't telling the truth, just saying I haven't been called by them.
nuttyrich says:
02/06/10 05:06PM
I've never been called by them. I've been emailed a few promos from someone named Otto.

I got the free play in about 10 minutes, they use a special "CP" account basically it's your PIN # with the CP in front of it. 

If you login to your regular account it won't be there.

Hope this helps someone.

Seems like they updated the website since I last used them, but offer the old one still which is odd the old one sucks lol!
gambaholik says:
02/06/10 11:30PM
Went on live chat and asked for my freeplay, and they put it into my account within seconds
looch17 says:
02/07/10 12:32AM
Ya i had no problem getting that freeplays, buddy who startedthis thread is a joke. only thing i don't like about BP is the phone calls, but i have had it from other books too so it is nothing new.
mr_bollox says:
02/07/10 02:06AM
got my $100 free bet in minutes too, have got other promotions as well, so what if there are rollover rules, its money you can play with, its why we gamble, betphoenix is a great customer service friendly book in my opinion
Greenikes says:
02/07/10 08:11AM

Nothing to lose?  The overwhelming majority of people who receive freeplays are recreational players who end up losing, then end up depositing and losing that too.  Why do you think they are giving away all this shit?  Its not so you can try out their software...

You are probably the same guy that stands in line for three hours to get a free scoop of ice cream or a free coffee on that one day per year that the store gives it away for free.

biggdizzle says:
02/07/10 01:43PM

People that bitch and moan about anything FREE should just put a bullet in their own head, and our world would be better off..

Basically you can walk away with $300 free if you are good enough to pick the winners over a 30day period, with nothing to lose..

How is that not a good deal?

Jarrett75 says:
02/07/10 01:45PM

yeah for that instance of the free play there is nothing to lose. If you choose to deposit with them after playing the free play that is a totally seperate situation which in that case there would be something to lose. But for the simple fact they give you a free $100 bet on the superbowl without deposit. How do you lose in that situation?

biggdizzle says:
02/07/10 01:45PM
Joszan7 says:
02/07/10 02:39PM
Is it possible to get the bonus without getting the message?
whereismyhat says:
02/07/10 03:25PM
Yeah, they have called me a few times since I signed up for the freeplay, but nothing harassing, the guy seems cool...they gave me the freeplay no problem.  If I don't deposit any money in their account then I am wondering if the calls will continue 
Greenikes says:
02/07/10 03:45PM

 

Listen Tony Robbins, just because you are an amazing person who always does the right thing (I'm sure you are a complete hyprocrite in real life) doesn't mean that the other addicts here dont get hooked by the bait that BP or any other book lays out for them.  DONT FALL FOR THE FREE PLAY TRAP!  Any experienced, non recreational player will tell you the same thing.

Greenikes says:
02/07/10 03:52PM
And by the way, whatever happened to the BP savior, Richard?  Apparently he gave up after getting his balls kicked in a thousand times.  That guy was a marketing genius..he would come in here after BP would go down for three days or erase a guy's wager or whatever else they did to screw things up and simply offer freeplays and all the squares would lick his nutsack.  Classic stuff.
Greenikes says:
02/07/10 10:48PM

Dude, you seriously speak in circles. 

I'm fairly ceratin you are already aware (and perhaps already in line), but Denny's is giving away free Grand Slam breakfasts on Tuesday.  You will only have to invest a few hours of your life to get it, but hey, you seem to love free shit, so go enjoy it with all the other white trash from your trailer park.

RAIDR4life says:
02/08/10 09:43PM
I accepted 100$ free play from bet phoenix I now have 8x's that thanks bet pheonix. Hell its free it all depends what you do with it.
Betphoenix says:
02/09/10 04:50AM
Forgive my absence Greenikes...I have been away on business.  I hope your Super Bowl betting was succesful.  I am ok with getting my balls kicked in here any time.
El_Terrifico says:
02/09/10 06:48AM
I emailed customer service and I was told to email some guy named robert, never got a reply so I never got the free play. Live support always got me a blank screen but I'll concede that could be my computer's fault. Anyways its past...Great Super Bowl and well done Saints!
Greenikes says:
02/09/10 03:27PM
I knew you were a troller.  You only come in here when I call you out or when something bad happens and you have to give away free shit.  Like I said, you are a jewel and master marketer.
Jarrett75 says:
02/10/10 10:46AM

are you just mad at the world? What did BP do to you to make you this angry at them?

Greenikes says:
02/10/10 11:19AM
Yeah, I'm mad at the world Dr Laura.  It's tame here versus the beatdown BP is taking on the SBR forum...
Greenikes says:
02/10/10 11:32AM

The purpose of the gaming industry forum is to communicate experiences that players are having with books.  All I am saying is that very strange things are happening to players funds/balances and if you have significant money in that book, you need to do some research on this and other boards to learn about this stuff.    There, you have been warned.

Greenikes says:
02/10/10 03:26PM

So with your line of thinking, because my daughter didn't get molested by the convicted sexual predator neighbor, I should keep my mouth shut and not warn you to keep your daughter away from that guy, right? 

Greenikes says:
02/10/10 10:42PM
Ladies;  mark my words, the shit is gonna hit the fan sooner than later and I will be the first one in here to say,"told you so, bitches".
Greenikes says:
02/10/10 10:58PM

Wow and the reviews and negative press just doesn't stop for BP:

http://www.askthebookie.com/news/?id=40

I understand it's one mans opinion, but damn it sure is alarming and enlightening.

Greenikes says:
02/10/10 04:56PM
Check out the SBR forum.  There are multiple posts about the going ons at BP.  If you choose to continue to ignore the glaring red flags and to keep your money there, good luck with that.
Greenikes says:
02/13/10 02:12PM

Is it true that this is the same Richard that came from Cascade?

BETTHEHOOK5809 says:
02/13/10 01:36PM
I cant wait til Richard gets back and gets these problems fixed. I like the book but have had enough of the crap from Charles.
golfkat says:
02/10/10 05:27PM
I have to admit, got the free play right away.  Blew the bet, but that
was not their fault.
Jarrett75 says:
02/10/10 05:27PM
see you won't answer a direct question. You aren't worth having a discussion with. You have a vendetta against them because of other people having possible issues. You have zero credibility.
Jarrett75 says:
02/12/10 04:48AM

This is probably the most sane, to the point and honest post about BP. I am sure greenikes or some other psycho will try to twist it some other way, but I think you hit the nail on the head.

Jarrett75 says:
02/10/10 11:14PM
look I am not saying they are the best book out there. But alot of this shit is just the case of people piling on. I have had my issues with them and have posted them on the board. I am fair and so far I haven't had any issues with them. Greenikes you still have yet to say what they did to you personally.
Jarrett75 says:
02/10/10 04:02PM

why don't you stop trying to turn into more then it is and focus on what's at hand. What did they do to you? If you don't know shit first hand then you are just spouting off shit you can't say 100% happened and it's called defamation. So stop avoiding questions by asking another question. What did they do to you? If nothing then what room do you have to talk?

Jarrett75 says:
02/10/10 11:57AM

so nothing personally has happened to you? You are just a crusader for everyone else?

FYI I am not saying BP is the greatest book or anything. I have had my issues with them, but nothing as far as bets being screwed with. It's more along the lines of poor service. If something happened to you, then feel free to continue what you feel is right. I just see you talking about others being done wrong. And if that's the case you should know gamblers aren't exactly the most credible people. They could be just mad at the book because of some other reason and come on here to bash thinking it will make people think twice about throwing money in with them.

MRSARATOGA says:
02/12/10 12:30AM

That ask the bookie article leaves tons to be desired. The guy also has some axe to grind against BP ownership. Looks like a hater not liking the innovator.  If you are a true student of all of this you will notice promos, bonuses, matching money etc. works FOR the book not against them.  The rollover requirements are nearly impossible to beat so you are always better off just depositing straight.

The free plays that BP offers have a cap AFTER the rollover so the hit isn't anything more than marketing money. This is all mathematics. For every 100 free plays they give out, X amount of players will deposit and keep playing.  The people they actually pay out to per hundred will be on the low side for those free plays like the super bowl one. Is it worth playing? Sure cause it is free. But it is also tough to overcome that dreaded rollover.

Why these aspects don't get brought up more in articles about books is surprising to me. Use one simple rule and you will increase your chances of winning............JUST DEPOSIT AND PLAY. PERIOD!!!!!

I like what BP does in terms of marketing and improving the site and the haters to this point have nothing to show for their screaming.

TennisCapper says:
02/11/10 05:35PM
A friend of mine had an account with BetPhoenix, he ran away.

He bet on a Tennis match and they didn't pay him the wager (that won of course) because they said that he bet the match after it started but in reality they screwed up with the time zone 

So basically the match was played in Russia and the time zone on the website was the one of the USA (7 hours difference) so despite the match clearly did not start yet (proof of this was the match was still on the board, otherwise it would have been off the board obviously) they told him that he was actually trying to cheat betting the match after it started...
All this in order to avoid paying a 300$ wager...


This bookie is a joke, I still don't understand why people look around when there are BetJamaica, Bookmaker, 5Dimes, TheGreek who can not even be compared under all aspects of gaming to this crappy site.

Friendly advice, take your money out and run...

jets123456 says:
02/13/10 08:28PM

Next to Creditwagering and a few others, BetPhoenix is a true BUSH league book.  They literally make up rules as they go and treat customers like absolute garbage. DO NOT PLAY with these frauds.

Greek/BetJM or find a local.

All others suck

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