I don't coach him everyday, do you? I wouldn't trade him for a first, more than likely a second, on his record. Unless of course I knew that he wasn't totally commited, there has to be a reason.
Bad compairison since McNabb didn't have all the off field problems and on field with coaches. This is why Moss went for a 4th. If he wasn't hitting traffic cops. getting caught with blunts, walking off the field with a chance to still win and not listening to coaches and taking off plays, then he would have been worth much more.
It is an excellent comparison. Two big name players at skill positions. Both had their own problems (you indicated Moss' and I talked about McNabb's above). In the NFL it doesn't matter your problems as any problems are too much when trading draft picks.
I disagree. Big Ben and Brady didn't have an all-star supporting cast at the skill positions. Hell, McNabb had Westbrook during the 2000s and we all know he was ridiculous.
As mentioned, you can't compare a guy with a great on and off field image to a guy that has been a constant problem on and off the field.
With that being said, I think McNabb will be traded and if Minnesota did trade a late 1st, I would hardly call it desperation, since they would win a Super Bowl with him. McNabb would have better weapons all around and one of the best D's he's ever had.
Just my opinion, but I do think the Old Gun Slinger will be back to choke again. Personally, Minny would be better going with McNabb and having a guaranteed QB for the next 4 years. With Favre, you get one more year at best.
now brady's; randy moss...wes welker...dante stallworth...troy brown...david patten...dion branch...ben watson...cory dillon, and if i'm not mistaken their defense was pretty good as well during brady's rein.
now McNabb; in 2000 he had darnell autry, todd pinkston, and james thrash, they 11-5, in 01 and 02, staley, pinkston, and thrash, 11-5, 12-4 respectivley, 03, westbrook, pinkston, and thrash, 12-4, 04, westbrook, OWENS, and thrash, 13-3, 05, westbrook, reggie brown, and greg lewis, 06, westbrook, brown, and stallworth, 10-6, 07, westbrook, brown, lewis, and kevin curtis.
not to mention, donny's been selected to the same number of pro-bowls as your two guys COMBINED...5
Im sick of hearing people say they havent seen enough out of "KOLB" not "COBB" (Get his name right b4 u make a point) Didnt aikman go 1-15 his 1st season with dallas... U idiots just dont get it, its just time to move on and begin a new era... 49ers traded montana who is 1 of the best qbs of all time and the packers got rid of favre who is also 1 of the best... why cant every1 just understand this its not that difficult... there trading him while hes still got worth which is smart on there part
OK then how the fuck did aj feely go 4-0 with those same players... mcnabb was a product of a system cause if u notice whenever he got hurt and another qb stepped in they didnt miss a beat and still won games... O and he might of been to 5 pro bowls but a few of them including this year he was an alternate for other qbs who dropped out
I was talking about Reid not believing in Mcnabb, though a second round pick for a playoff QB is same nothing. I don't think you should compare Kolb to a first overall pick and a multiple Superbowl winner, Aikmen. I still would stick with my veteran over a second because reality is the playoffs in the NFL in that division is going to be difficult. You can bump this if you remember, they won't make the playoffs without Mcnabb or at least someone like Garcia. Reid continues to throw the ball too much and most QB's can't excel in that situation.
Brady didn't have anyone to work with in the early 2000s and he won often. Sure, now he has Welker and Moss, but he hasn't won a Lombardi trophy with them. Same with Big Ben, his supporting cast in 2005 wasn't anything special. It wasn't anything special in 2008 either. I would take Westbrook over Bettis and/or Dillon in the 2000s. He put up monster numbers on the ground and in receiving. Philly's defense wasn't too shabby either under Jim Johnson. They had a killer secondary and a great blitz scheme. Point is that McNabb isn't even a top ten in the league today. I would start Brady, Manning, Favre, Rodgers, Big Ben, Rivers, Brees, Schaub, Romo, and Ryan over McNabb.
exactly!!! u get it my friend... Thats why the patriots busted a load all over themselves when seattle traded a 1st round pick for deion branch... they knew it was all brady, what has branch done since... its ashame mcnabb couldnt have had receivers like david patten,deion branch,troy brown,david givens etc.. cause maybe he would have as many super bowls as brady with playmakers like this if mcnabb is still that good then why arent the eagles getting a 1st round pick 4 him? hes still elite right? lol give me a break
How are you a proven winner because you've been to 5 nfc champ games and lost 4 of them? by my math thats a .200 winning percentage........not very impressive.
ya hes been to 5 nfc championship games and he lost 3 of those as a FAVORITE, he also had a #1 defense to help him get to those games so it wasnt all mcnabb even tho you wanna believe it was... awwww poor mcnabb give me a break!! he makes millions of dollars and he still crys about getting booed... stop catering to this guy... ron jaworski got it way worse in philly by the fans than mcnabb but you wouldnt know that because you obviously listen to everything the national media tells u... and for a guy that cares so much about winning he laughs an awful lot after he throws an interception.. he can take that nonsense to oakland and lets see how much he laughs then
That least intercepted thing is the most overrated stat i have ever heard and i hear mcnabb supporters always bring it up... hey pal guess who owned that record b4 mcnabb.... NEIL O DONNELL... And for a guy who doesnt get intercepted he threw 3 interceptions in the super bowl when it really matters so your lame ass stat doesnt do anything for me... MCNABB has been to 5 nfc championship games because lets face it he will get the credit if they win those games... Hes a franchise QB making millions so in my opinion he should shoulder all the blame when they lose but instead he wants to blame everyone else or blame the "youth" like he did last year... hes a choke artist and if you cant accept that then thats to bad
excellent i agree