The NCAA just wants their name in the news, they should have sanctioned Arkansas footbal team for their coach cheating on his wife then!!
They will still be on TV!!Scolarships and bowls (like the Meinke car care bowl) Are lost...IT WAS A COVER UP AND SCANDAL from every level (janitor to head coach to President)
Your logic is flawed!
Penn State got off the easiest possible. They were not even close to get what they should have gotten.
They were criminally negligent for almost 20 years and this is all they get?
Wow, this ought to be fun.
Mr Freeh has had over 500 documents in his career done by the FBI and private groups such as this admitted to the courts with ZERO..yes ZERO ever denied. And many larger cases than this.
You are telling me that no kids...NONE...were abused by Sandusky?
Uh, Mr Sandusky was found GUILTY!!!! Guilty even at a time when he was under the payroll of the University of Penn State. Evidence in the trials were found that Mr Paterno, and the Univ president and many others in the university was told about this and they did nothing. The minute they were told about this incident or any incident and did not tell the police, the FBI or the families of the children they were criminally negligent.
i agree PSU got 1 year more bowl probation than USC for a far more serious crime then a violation of rules. I was in favor for eliminating the football program for 2 years, the NCAA didn't need to make the rulings they wanted too.
The sentiment of Penn state fans
Gents, it has been a pleasure chatting with you over the last year or so, a lot of great people on here but I am done with college sports. Will not watch a game or support anything related to the NCAA again. What Emmert did today was beyond comprehension to me.
Does he think that a victim of this type of crime will ever come forward again knowing that if he does his entire community is going to be punnished when he does so? Will this punnishment scare univeristy administrators? It should (for any number of reasons), but I believe that it will also scare vicitms of similar crimes from coming forward in the future. Maybe I am wrong, but from dealing with many abuse survivors through my job, this would be their worst nightmare for many of them.
The NCAA had an opportunity here to really try and make a difference - hell turn PSU football into a non-pofit - put the bulk of the money from the football program into develping programs to support abuse victims, to educating the public that it is not only ok, but imperative that adults not look the other way, take the stigma away from asking the tough questions when something doesn't seem right, create a program that will develop counsellors for abuse victims and fund it through football. Do something that actually helps victims and helps prevent child abuse. Instead Emmert made a political power play for his own benefit in the name of these victims.
This could have been something that punnished the university and the football program as both would suffer without the funding, but that could actually do some good for victims of abuse and would not punish thousands of innocents in central PA or the student athletes at PSU.
While I think that the NCAA is misguided in punishing the football program, that pales in comparison to what I think they have done to the vicitms in this case and imo probably future cases that we will never hear about.
Cement your power Emmert, just don't look down at the people your stood on to get there, you might not like what you see.
Good luck to all of the PSU athletes, students and alumni that may read this, you deserve so much better than the leadership (or more specifically the lack thereof) that you have at PSU.
POOR LIL GUY!!! WAS THIS A SUICIDE NOTE??
THEN A GUY RESPONDED:
I'm almost at the same point you are.
I'm sure football will continue and I support the students/athletes are PSU, but I have a tough time figuring out how I can support them while showing my utter distain for our former and current administation.
Our former "leaders" sucked and our current "leaders" suck as well.
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They should've penalized them a lot more than they did. 40 years of hiding the truth and the fact that the victims will never ever be able to forget what happened to them. This story will never ever go away and for those that support Joe Pa and Penn St, bend over and let Jerry stick it in your a$$.
$60 million is not a drop in the bucket to any school and its more like $108 million for starters.
The fine was equal to the average annual gross revenue of the football program. The money will be placed into an endowment for programs that work to prevent child sexual abuse and assist victims. No programs at Penn State can be financed by the money.
Actually the 60M in fines are going towards charity
Truth is not your main skill either.
Here is Joe Pa's statement: "I was told about the incident in the shower and should have done more". The minute he was told about the incident and he did not report it to the FBI, Police, and notify the parents of the child he became criminally negligent. As a representative of the university that made the university as criminally negligent.
I do believe that Joe Pa was part of the football program. So now we have Joe Pa negligent, the University is negligent and the football program is negligent. There are not just 2 incidents, every incident that had any correlation to the incident that was told to Joe Pa now made Joe Pa as negligent for every incident afterward.
Lets say you are an accountant. You work for ABC accounting. You steal $100 million from one of your customers without knowledge of the company.
For that you AND your company are both at fault and are both responsible for the $100million.
Now lets say an intern tells you about this incident and you do a quick look at the books and find no wrong doing. In the meantime you steal $100million for 10 others. You, the company, everyone that looked at the original books and anyone that the company told is completely liable for those $100 million to each of the 10 clients.
Same here. Once Joe Pa was told about the story and he did not go to the FBI, the police, and the parents of the children he became criminally negligable as well as everyone that was told and for every child Sandusky raped afterward.
That is the law.
Okay, not 20 years...only 14. That makes it so much better!!!!
Brillant. A few people at Penn St. hurt some innocent people, so now the NCAA hands down a punishment that will hurt a lot of innocent people.
Remember when you were a kid, and your sister did something wrong, and your parents punished you too? It was wrong then, and this is wrong now.
This is why I hate PC. It is a cancer in our country.
Wow is that off base. The school is being punished because the school is criminally negligable.
And that is not "PC", that has been the law for over 100 years. If you know of a criminal act and you do nothing about it, you are as guilty as the person doing the act.
Had the representatives done anything except try to cover their asses they might have actually tried to help these kids and find out if it was true by contacting the FBI or police or even the kids families.
There is not even the smallest remote comparisons to the two situations.
I hope the NCAA sanctions are only the beginning for PSU. I hope all people their who turned a blind eye to the rapist and allowed him to continue his disgusting behavior on campus are prosecuted, tried and jailed for their complicity in this tragedy. I hope civil lawsuits are filed and it breaks the bank at PSU. Only then might the victims begin to have some closure to what happened to them.
The penalties and fines levied against the school were more than appropriate. Of course innocent people far removed from the scandal are going to pay a price, but the penalty must be harsh enough to deter any future coaches or staff from committing such atrocious crimes, especially against children. Those that decide to do the wrong thing and break the law and/or cheat will ruin it big time for those that come after them. That is how it always has been with college sports, and that is how it always will be. I do agree that the monetary fines could have been directed to be paid to charities in the community...60 million could help alot of kids in and around the city.
I think Penn st wanted this to go away as fast as possible. They accepted the terms of the punishment without even thinking of an appeal. The last thing they want is to have this thing drag on for years in the court system, with a headline about new legal developments popping up every few months. They are eager to put this chapter behind them, and I don't blame them.