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The Greatest Baseball Player of All-Time

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Posted Friday, October 17, 2008 05:55 PM   31 comments
It's an argument that everyone has an opinion.  From the beginning of baseball lore with Ty Cobb right up to the current day, with stars like Alex Rodriguez and Barry Bonds.  But is there any way to make an educated answer to the question, who is the greatest of all-time?
 
After a lot of reading online of various lists, from the sporting news to ESPN to the stat book itself, I have compiled five players who are featured at or near the top in all of these lists.  I'm going to go player by player to make a case for them, then tell you my opinion at the end.
 
Pete Rose
Pete is the greatest pure hitter in baseball history.  A mind boggling 4,256 hits in just over 3,500 games.  Rose was selected to the all-star game seventeen times.  A three time world series champion.  He was the NL's Rookie of the Year in 1963, the NL's Most Valuable Player in 1973, and the World Series MVP in 1975.  He shares the record for the longest hitting streak in the National League, a whopping 44 games.  He hit above .300 in fifteen of his twenty four major league seasons and finished as a career .303 hitter.  He holds seventeen different baseball records.  Sure he's got that black cloud over his head because of the gambling problems that have followed him since then but when it came to playing the game, Charlie Hustle was one of the best.
 
Stan Musial
Stan The Man was one of the original hotshots of baseball.  A career .331 hitter to go with his 3,630 hits & 475 home runs.  He was selected to the all-star game twenty four times.  He won the World Series three times.  He was the NL's Most Valuable Player in 1943, 1946 & 1948.  What makes all of those accomplishments stand out even more is that he missed the 1945 season to serve in the U.S. Navy.  He retired holding seventeen major league records.  When Stan retired, he took over the Cardinals as the GM, leading them to 101 wins & another World Series title.
 
Willie Mays
The Sey Hey Kid was the greatest player in San Francisco Giants history.  A career 660 home runs, .302 Batting Average & 3,283 Hits.  He was selected to the all-star game twenty-one times, twice winning the MVP award, in 1963 & 1968.  He was the NL's Most Valuable Player in 1954 & 1965.  The NL's Rookie of the Year in 1951 and won the World Series with the Giants in 1954.  The man was as clutch as it gets, hitting twenty two extra-inning home runs.  He's also the only major leaguer to hit a home run in every inning from the 1st to the 16th.  As Ted Williams once said "they invented the all-star game for Willie Mays", he was that good.
 
Lou Gehrig
Gehrig is often over looked by some when recalling past greats.  A career .340 average to go with his 493 home runs & 1,995 runs batted in.  He was a seven time all-star selection.  But he played ten years before the all-star game was even created!  A six time world series champion.  The AL Most Valuable Player in 1927 & 1936.  He won the triple crown in 1934.  An amazing 2,130 consecutive games played.  He still holds the record for most Grand Slams in a career, having hit twenty three.  He's the only player in baseball history to collect 400 total bases in five different seasons.
 
Babe Ruth
The Babe created the home run.  A seven time world series champion & he was the 1923 AL Most Valuable Player.  An impressive .342 career average to go with his 714 home runs & 2,217 runs batted in.  And he didn't need steroids for those numbers, just hot dogs & beer.  He is the "reason" the Red Sox couldn't win a world series until 2004.  The first man to ever hit 30, 40, 50 & 60 home runs in a season.  But what many don't credit him with is his amazing pitching performances.  A career 94-46 record, 2.28 ERA, 1,221.1 inning pitched & just 10 home runs allowed.
 
There's a reason why people us the expression, "The Babe Ruth of ______."  As the New York Times once stated, "a figure unprecedented in American life. A born showman off the field and a marvelous performer on it, he had an amazing flair for doing the spectacular at the most dramatic moment."  Babe Ruth did it all, from pitching to hitting and is the reason baseball has become what it has.  Babe Ruth is, without a doubt, the Greatest Baseball Player of All-Time.
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MrOPC says:
10/17/08 06:08PM
Willie Mays changed baseball....he created the "5-tool player"..

 

Not only was there nothing that Mays could not do superbly on the field.....he also had an "instinct" that could not be taught.

 

Knowing when to take the extra base, knowing where to throw the ball with his back to the bases...and combined that with a showmanship that he did better than anyone..

 

A little bit of Mays trivia.....He always wore a baseball cap that was a size small so that it would fly off his head when he ran...seriously.

 

Many could hit farther, or a better average, or run faster, field better,......none could "package" their skills better than # 24.

docterd597 says:
10/17/08 06:17PM
Willie  Mays
AttitudeEsq says:
10/17/08 07:14PM
Gotta go with the Babe.  Without him bases would never be what it is today.
Parzero says:
10/17/08 07:45PM
Babe Ruth.

 

What was Willie Mays career batting average?  LOL

 

 

TheGoldenGoose says:
10/17/08 07:47PM
I could make a very strong case for
Roberto Clemente,
first Latin Player Elected to the Baseball Hall of Fame.

Don't have the time right now, but here's the deal:

This guy could do it all---
Hit for average
Hit for power
Tremendous Clutch Hitter
Steal Bases
Take the Extra Base
Run down balls in cavernous ballparks
to make the acrobatic catches
Then turn and fire a cannonball to cut an opposing runner down at home plate.
The man's arm was ridiculously strong and accurate.

On top of everything else, the great Clemente was a humanitarian hero to all Latin peoples.  He died in a plane crash, attempting to bring food and water rations to survivors of a Nicaragua earthquake.

Take some time to google-up some of Clemete's greatest baseball plays and highlights.  You won't be disappointed.
chilitokid says:
10/17/08 08:34PM
I can't remember his name off hand but he was the Pitcher for the Detroit Tigers a few years ago. I think he lost his first 19 games (off the top of my head). I won a ton of cash betting against him.
I always judge pro athletes by how much I won or lost against the spread and not by their individual achievements.
gjoey823 says:
10/17/08 10:41PM
nigel wilson
Vasko says:
10/17/08 10:48PM
Stan Musial
slimjim511 says:
10/17/08 11:02PM
You DEFINATELY have to throw Teddy Ballgame in there, and Joe D as well...without their tours in the war they would have amazing numbers, still do
blckndgldfn says:
10/17/08 11:08PM
Lyman Bostock
70-Six says:
10/17/08 11:31PM
Ruth,agreed
andarmac99 says:
10/17/08 11:44PM
I could be wrong here but when Ruth hit 60 HR the 2nd place guy had something like 19. nuff said.
NewDarkDay says:
10/18/08 10:33AM
its Babe Ruth and its really not even close
hawkeye33 says:
10/18/08 10:43AM
1) Babe Ruth
1a) Willie Mays - best ballplayer i ever saw
Potpie says:
10/18/08 10:51AM
Eric Gagne.
SEMINOLE317 says:
10/18/08 11:52AM
Mickey Mantle
pastafazoola says:
10/18/08 12:14PM
Ted Williams......
jpero says:
10/18/08 12:17PM
Willie Mays... Also people never give Hank Aaron any respect. All time HR leader (i will never recognize Bonds), All time leader in RBIs, XB hits, doubles

Also Rose is not the greatest pure hitter of all time... It was Ted Williams and if he had not gone to war in the peak of his career there is no telling how many HR he and more hits he would have ended up with.
scoop says:
10/18/08 01:14PM
My Vote goes to Cal Ripken
BostonKen says:
10/18/08 02:25PM
Ted Williams is not on your list?


Williams lost nearly five years of his career to military service in

World War II and Korea but managed to hit 521 homers and average .344

for his career, only once hitting below .316.


Ted Williams won the Triple Crown not once, but twice - in 1942, and again in 1947 after missing three years to WWII.

Williams eventually flew 38 combat missions before being pulled from

flight status in June 1953 after an old ear infection acted up

On February 16, 1953, Williams was part of a 35-plane strike package against a tank and infantry training school just south of Pyongyang, North Korea. During the mission a piece of flak knocked out his hydraulics and electrical systems, causing Williams to have to "limp" his plane back to US Air Force base K-13, also called Suwon Air Base. K-13 was the closest to the front lines, where he was.

 

MrOPC says:
10/18/08 04:31PM
One more point about Willie; someone mentioned similiar facts about Williams and Dimaggio....

 

Willie was in the military for almost all of 1952 and all of 1953.

 

When he came back, he hit 41 HR's in 1954.....

 

If you gave Willie, let's say, 35 HR's in 1952 and 1953....

 

He would have finished his career ahead of The Babe also....

JEG53 says:
10/18/08 04:54PM
Pete Rose best singles hitter ever,but with his 4000+ hits should be in HOF,but no where the best player.

 

Willie Mays imo,plus hes a nice guy,sat in his box once and watched a Giant-Dodgers with him,great day.

revengeissweet1 says:
10/18/08 04:56PM
A few things to point out for how I came up with those 5....

 

Originally I was going to do 10 and Williams, Aaron, Clemente, Cobb & DiMaggio were on there but I'm pretty sure Covers has a limit for how long a message can be so I cut it down to five.

 

I also didn't want to give people extra credit for leaving to be in the Army or Navy.  Yes, it's very admirable but it has absolutely nothing to do with the game & that's what I wanted to focus on, the game itself.  "the stats he WOULD have had...." means nothing because they didn't get those stats, we're going on the stats we have readily available to us.

 

 

And as I stated in the first paragraph, everyone has an opinion, I hope everyone expresses theirs because that's what is so great with the internet but let's keep it to opinions and not toss in the insults.

revengeissweet1 says:
10/18/08 05:15PM
for the record, the reason ted williams (who i argued back & forth with Gehrig for top 5) didn't make the top 5 is because he never won a world series title.  I'm a firm believer that if you are truly great, you will make others around you better and that you'll win championships.
best_bets says:
10/18/08 07:03PM
What about Gabe Gross?
Jimmag says:
10/18/08 08:32PM
I agree with Goose Clemente is very high on my list.
revengeissweet1 says:
10/18/08 10:58PM
ok ok pasta, you've onvinced me, Teddy Ballgame should be top 5 - i still say Babe is best ever though, mad respect for the guy who turned the game in to what it is today
pastafazoola says:
10/18/08 08:54PM
sorry have to give you my reasoning for Ted Williams..again..

21 year old rookie hit .327 in a 565 AB season..

missed 1943-1945 (as a 25-27 year old) in millitary service, after hitting .356 with 137 RBIs and 36 HR's..after his stint in the War comes back in 1946 and ith .342 with 38 HR's and 123RBI's..

In 1950 All-Star game in July 11, Williams fractures left elbow, up to that point, Williams had played in 70 games, after the injury he plays in only 19 more games and still ends up hitting 28 HRs with 97 RBIs, many people think that after this injury he never was the same ballplayer as before, had he the treatment for injuries they have now, believe he would've had even better numbers..

For 1952 and 1953 seasons plays in only 43 games, because of service in Korean War, still hits 14 HRs and 37 RBIs hitting .409 in 101 AB's...

In 1941,  the year when he hit .406, he already had .400 sewed up, and still decided to play in the last couple of games and pushed that number to .406 

As a 40 year old, hit .388 with 38 HR's

He's a Latino  (at least his mom was)

Basically, my arguements center on the fact that he missed 5years of his career for military service, with 3 years of those in his, what most people consider physical prime for athletes as well as his last 11 years were affected by a brutal injury that many people consider to have affected his baseball capabilites and still end up with a life-time .344 Batting Average

 

pastafazoola says:
10/18/08 09:14PM
sorry, Ted is my boy, so...

1949 reached base in 84 consecutive games...

in 1957 reached base in 16 consecutive appearances..

Hit a Homer in his final career at bat in sept. 28, 1960..

and in his hall of fame induction, Teddy ball game said,"I've been a very lucky guy to have worn a baseball uniform, and I hope some day the names of Satchel Paige and Josh Gibson in some way can be added as a symbol of the great Negro players who are not here only because they weren't given a chance."

think the babe or stan the man would've had the  to say that?

Teddy!Teddy!Teddy!

 

 

 

caliguy42 says:
10/18/08 09:04PM
1. willie mays 2. barry bonds 3 babe ruth
Srescate says:
10/19/08 11:47AM
Bo Jackson....He can hit 400 foot homeruns and run over Linebackers
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